Seriously Why Are Black People Muslim

[GrindtooFilthy]

I’m HIGH KEY skeptical of the desire to try and separate religion and culture. In many cases, religion IS culture and has been one of the most powerful vehicles for shaping culture since the dawn of time. Hell from an evangelical standpoint, that’s the entire point. It’s disingenuous to argue that countries where millions have been killed in the name of a deity hasn’t had their culture wiped clean by current dominant religious cultural paradigms.

Religions develop within the cultural climates and then shape the cultures of all they touch. They are inextricably tied.

ya but let this fool @Entropy Fan tell it, he hi key is spitting out white supremacist rhetoric, you see his post. what the fukk is this mans obsession with trying to dominate and "civilize" other people. fukkin weirdo behaviour

 

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ya but let this fool @Entropy Fan tell it, he hi key is spitting out white supremacist rhetoric, you see his post. what the fukk is this mans obsession with trying to dominate and "civilize" other people. fukkin weirdo behaviour

I adore learning about most religious traditions but trying to separate them from the fukkery they have been used to spread is reeeeeeeeeeeally silly.
Why wouldn’t and shouldn’t Africans be allowed to practice indigenous spiritual traditions. Ideally, they would have gone through years of discourse and reform just like other religious traditions have to improve overtime.
But the idea that mine is better than urs so you need to convert or die you inferior heathen has been the modus operandi for major world religions for far too long. Islam certainly hasn’t been exempt from that and it’s not solely attributable to “Culture”.
It’s built into religion in and of itself.

 

[MaxPain]

Ain't u Puerto Rican

What's this us

Im black

 

[Jekyll]

Black people touched their heights under Islam, word to Musa I

 

[MaxPain]

Also, it’s not always the religion that’s the issue

It’s how its used

Christianity isnt originally the white man’s but he perverted it and made his own version (King James, Catholic)

You can bend it to ur own will, but most black christians and muslims don’t.

 

[Jeshaman]

There were great African empires built outside of Christianity and Islam. I won't bother naming them because other posters have done it for me. Just because they don't meet your threshold of greatness doesn't mean that they weren't great.

And it's a BIG deal that voodoo was what Africans turned to in liberating Haiti and not Christianity or Islam. For me, it's a bigger deal than Timbuktu or Mansa Musa, but each to their own.

 

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Black people touched their heights under Islam, word to Musa I

Why is it unreasonable to assume that they wouldn’t have made these accomplishments without Islamic influence?

There are African tribes who were treating diseases with knowledge scientist are trying to get today. Huge cities that developed outside of Islamic influence.

There’s an underlying assumption and association of primitivity with traditional African societies that chafes me sometimes. I’m not saying u necessarily feel that way but a lot of people think Islam or Christianity “civilized” tribes and they never even stop to wonder how these people were living and thriving for thousands of years b4 they ever heard of Islam or Christianity.

 

[Jekyll]

Why is it unreasonable to assume that they wouldn’t have made these accomplishments without Islamic influence?

There are African tribes who were treating diseases with knowledge scientist are trying to get today. Huge cities that developed outside of Islamic influence.

There’s an underlying assumption and association of primitivity with traditional African societies that chafes me sometimes. I’m not saying u necessarily feel that way but a lot of people think Islam or Christianity “civilized” tribes and they never even stop to wonder how these people were living and thriving for thousands of years b4 they ever heard of Islam or Christianity.

I think that you maybe took it the wrong way. Like it or not religion is responsible for literary enlightenment for most groups of people. Even atheists like Richard Dawkins will tell you that.

I don't know what would have happened if African rulers didn't embrace religions, but I do know what happened to the ones that did. Even the establishment of Timbuktu, which has taught millions of Africans was rooted in Islam.

 

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I think that you maybe took it the wrong way. Like it or not religion is responsible for literary enlightenment for most groups of people. Even atheists like Richard Dawkins will tell you that.

I don't know what would have happened if African rulers didn't embrace religions, but I do know what happened to the ones that did. Even the establishment of Timbuktu, which has taught millions of Africans was rooted in Islam.

I agree that religion can be an impetuous for change. I’m just wondering about which religions are allowed to affect those changes and I’m critical of changes from outside forces. Not all were bad, but they certainly weren’t all good either.
However some make an arrogant assumption, particularly about many African cultures and their development outside of other influence.

 

[ISO]

Lmao you Never heard of Haiti ?!

Voo Doo did nothing but maybe scare Europeans

Haitians won because they were fighting with rage and passion and were willing to burn the country to the ground. They also ended up getting fukked in the ass with the debts so what did voo doo really do?

 

[ISO]

I disagree. Us as Black people are spiritual people. So, we need some kind of faith to keep us going.

All people are spiritual and religion is a thing across all people not just us as black people.



All religion is a moral code to prevent anarchy and an explanation and tall tales of how this world came to be. A lot of religions have the same teachings and similar stories because they’re retellings of ancient shyt with geographical and cultural differences.

How about faith in yourself that should be enough.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Have you never forgiven someone in your life who has wronged you?

Have you never asked for forgive after wronging someone?

Forgiveness is more about you moving on with your life and letting go of the pain/anger.

It’s not this made up bending down on one knee holding cacs hands and singing kum bai ya imagery that y’all have in y’all head.

Nobody personally has wronged me by killing a loved one or in any traumatizing fashion and if they did I would not forgive.
Only thing I ever forgiven some for is minor shyt that wouldn't even make the local news on a slow news day.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Voo Doo did nothing but maybe scare Europeans

Haitians won because they were fighting with rage and passion and were willing to burn the country to the ground. They also ended up getting fukked in the ass with the debts so what did voo doo really do?

By extension then what did Islam do nothing because those places were already working towards whatever their goal was With or without religion, you should have read the whole argument Before jumping In

 

[The Solid One]

Also, it’s not always the religion that’s the issue

It’s how its used

Christianity isnt originally the white man’s but he perverted it and made his own version (King James, Catholic)

You can bend it to ur own will, but most black christians and muslims don’t.

Shout out to the Ethiopian Orthodox Christians

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

I disagree. Us as Black people are spiritual people. So, we need some kind of faith to keep us going.

Speak for yourself.