Seth Rollins resents The Rock

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True, but guys like Rock, Hogan, Austin, etc. even making cameos add to the festivities to some degree (though probably less now since the Network basically eliminates PPV draws) and it isn't just about WM. It's about licensing and merchandise. Those guys can still bring in a lot of money for the company.
See that's a company thing though benefits wwe , but it's like if they buying rock /Austin stuff is that helping dolph ziggler ?? To a degree maybe but it's potentially taking money out of his and others mouths . Now I definitely see why they bring in the attractions but I just think wwe uses them wrong to a degree and if your pay can be greatly increased by main eventing mania and they throw the rock in cause he can draw are you just ok with that ?Or as a competitive person do you want you want that spot? Wrestling is fake and it's like they can choose to try and give someone the top spot to fail in as opposed to bringing In a draw (attraction) but for wwe thats dumb but for boys in the back shouldn't they want to get that spot ? It's a complicated dynamic and to me not as simple as they are hating on the rock or just jealous
 

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Why not?

It has been a proven ratings and buyrate success and brought tons of classic moments. What reasons do you have for being against it?



Undertaker has been a part time attraction for over a decade now, did you have a problem when he did it?

And would you have had a similar problem with Batista winning the title because THAT was the original plan for WM30?

Rock and Brock both brought tons fo attention and boosted buyrates and ratings by holding the title and being back around. This is a business, the goal is to draw money. Once again, why is this a bad thing?





We don't dislike Rollins, nobody here has said anything BAD about Rollins as a performer. What we don't RESPECT is him speaking out of turn regarding something that doesn't effect him in the guise of jealousy. Rollins comments had him acting like a punk bytch and we don't like punk bytches.

You are taking the words of one guy with more credit than the words, actions and track records of countless others that say different. Everyone that has interacted with The Rock has said NOTHING BUT glowing words about him, even Cena and Punk who BOTH originally had harsh criticism turned around and spoke very highly of him. Jericho's SMALL comments didn't even say or mark anything out of character as Rock was treated like a celebrity guest and not a wrestler. You are speculating on how Rock's actions COULD be taken instead of focusing on facts of what he's actually done, which up to this point is very little to seem aloof.

What it sounds like is these guys can't seem to understand Rock IS a celebrity guest and not an on site contractor like them, so his standards are different.




Let me stop you right here because what you are doing now is mentally creating an image of what is going on rather than assessing only what is reported. This is not factual, its speculation.



You are missing the point and glossing over the details.

the difference between Rock and Batista was that Rock was embraced and wanted by the fans and some of the talent backstage got upset. Batista was REJECTED by the fans, yet embraced by the other talent.

Fact is, these guys all work for the company and are their to entertain the fans. Its not the talent's job to make decisions about what is best for the company, there job is to go out there and perform what their told. Rollins or ANYBODY speaking out about what another man does or should/shouldn't do is overstepping their boundaries and NOT something worthy of respect.



AH! There we go, here is the root of the problem, you are still one of the scorned fans who take what you hear word for word and never forgave Rock for leaving.

Do you remember The Rock's promo in the mountains, do I need to link it up again? Rock ALREADY addressed this. When he said he "was never leaving" it didn't mean he was going to be back for every single show and its ridiculous if you even believe that. His words were meant that he was never going to leave and distance himself from the product like he had in the prior 7 years, which he HAS held true to since.

Tell me, why would you bring up this answered and irrelevant talking point if you were not scorned?




This is all speculation. You don't know Rollins and you don't know his motivations. None of us do. To even make up reason of why Rollins would speak out of turn like this about someone else, speaks more to what your real goals are...

You seem to be giving Rollins EVERY benefit of the doubt but automatically assuming the worst about The Rock and his actions. Tell me, why do you keep playing favorites and going off double standards? Do you feel the need to take up for your white brethren? :mjpls:
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Damn. :ohhh:

Yo good shyt. nikka was dropping some knowledge. I agree wholeheartedly. I do know that this nikka Seth was half in character and half just saying he was jealous but in a good way. That honestly should be the mindset for anyone who got to cry about Rock and his motives. Strive to be that great. Just dont be a dikk and a bytch about it. shyts for the birds.

Sure nothing will change the fact Rock was getting a bunch of side eye and unnecessary flack from some of the young'ns in the back and fans all across the globe. It was crazy. Especially for a guy of that stature. Some of it might have been warranted but for the most part it felt petty to me. Rock is a good dude. I remember this video on YT I seen a while back that was highlighting a lot of the good shyt said about Rock that came from some of the guys in the back.
 
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Ok I thought you wanted to have a actual discussion and nope you just want to cape for the rock . Your giving the rock excuses he doesn't need . Rollins clarified his statement some by saying its some envy for the rocks success :yeshrug: this thread shouldn't be this long you would of thought he called him nicca or something


Nope, it sounds like you don't have the stamina for debate if you are just going to write off everything I said as "caping" :sas1:

ESPECIALLY when you are the one in here caping for Rollins. But I get it, you seem to have no problem with double standards when they work in your favor :sas2:


Regardless, in the VERY FIRST post I made in this thread, I made it VERY CLEAR that jealousy is not a normal trait, nor is it a respectable one. here is the quote for you:
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Its not natural to be jealous of another man's success, especially when that man represents the same "fraternity" that you do. Its immature and petty.

I notice a lot of white people seem to be ok with their jealousy of other people and understand when others are jealous of them. Why? I don't think I've heard any black wrestlers criticize The Rock, nor do they ever seem to be jealous of another black wrestler's success. I wonder why... :mjpls: #inherently



What you need to explain beyond anything is WHY you find it ok for a man to be jealous of another man. :patrice:
 

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You don't know how the pay days are with the network and yes you get a pay bump but not the same bump it'd be with being in the MAIN EVENT . You guys are applying this your job but that's not even a real comparison but let's say it is , in your job if you could be the CEO and get his pay but the company is alittle less successful would you do that or rather stay in your current position and get a decent raise and let someone else become the boss to make the company more successful ? Both positions have some merit


Dude, you are making assumptions and speaking on things you don't know or have specifics about. First of all, Rock coming back and working was BEFORE the Network was even up. Second of all, You don't know about wrestler paydays, you only know what is reported, i.e. what you heard. Rock boosted ratings and PPV buys and we know that because we have the numbers and the reports dictating that.

Here is a DIRECT QUOTE from Randy Orton speaking on how Rock's return boosted his payout and he realized that his comments were petty and biased:

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2011/8...-tune-on-the-rock-is-being-totally-genuine-he


RKO said:
"You know, that's a tough question for me to answer. I've answered it already a few times. Here's the thing, I could be selfish and say that I feel it takes away from me, but you have to give credit where credit is due, and I will very humbly say that Cena, watching him come up and get better and better and just how smart he is in outside the business, the business side, he knows what he's doing out there. Rock? You know, he went and did the acting thing. I could see how one of our fans would be upset with him for coming back after all this time and saying, 'I promise I won't leave, I'm here for good, I'm here to stay.'


"The day after WrestleMania, this match, Cena vs. Rock, is made. And you thinking, man, is he going to be around to promote this match. Here's the thing, Rock is so big time and that many more people are going to watch our show because of it. And for that, no matter how I feel about whether or not Rock is here, there, or wherever, I got paid for this past WrestleMania and I was happy with my payday. And I know that that number on that paycheck reflected him being present that day. If anything, Dwayne, if you're listening, thank you. And I think everyone on the card owes him a thank you, because helped people watch our show. He helped ticket sales, plain and simple. He's The Rock. Whether you love him or hate him, he's entertaining.


"I guess in Australia, John Cena, I saw some stuff on the net where post-show for a live event, he said some disparaging things about Rock. And Rock gave his rebuttal... It was Rock himself doing a flip-camera video, and he cut a 12-minute promo on Cena. And after the promo, I was like, 'Man, I never really thought about it like that before.' It was pretty good. I had my wife come listen to it. Rock is awesome. I've said things before about his verbiage and writers helping come up with it.


"Here's the thing, he's as entertaining as it gets. The electricity that whole thing, you do feel it in the air. When you're backstage, when I first started, he's doing a live promo to the house and TV live at the same time, backstage I'd be peeking around the corner and watching him do his thing and hoping that one day that I could amount to an eighth of that energy. He's better than anybody else out there when it comes to that, but John Cena is my boy. I respect what he's done for this business and how hard he works for this business, so I will always have his back."


Randy clearly ADMITTED he was being petty and childish hating on the Rock and outright apologizes for his actions. Rollins still got some growing up to do and if you agree with Rollins, then you do too.
 

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But also remember mania is a draw in of itself and its a big honor to be in the main event ( and a bigger paycheck ) bigger than the increase you get from being just on the card


When you get a job, make sure to tell your boss that you'd like to be paid in Honor instead of Money. :youngsabo:
 

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See that's a company thing though benefits wwe , but it's like if they buying rock /Austin stuff is that helping dolph ziggler ?? To a degree maybe but it's potentially taking money out of his and others mouths . Now I definitely see why they bring in the attractions but I just think wwe uses them wrong to a degree and if your pay can be greatly increased by main eventing mania and they throw the rock in cause he can draw are you just ok with that ?Or as a competitive person do you want you want that spot? Wrestling is fake and it's like they can choose to try and give someone the top spot to fail in as opposed to bringing In a draw (attraction) but for wwe thats dumb but for boys in the back shouldn't they want to get that spot ? It's a complicated dynamic and to me not as simple as they are hating on the rock or just jealous


Why weren't they in that spot when Taker, Cripple H, and Cena were main eventing years before Rock right came back? You're speaking in halfs again. The Rock is here and he's in who's spot? Who is SUPPOSED TO ABOVE HIM? The Taker takes a backseat to the Rock...u know why? Because he headlined and it couldn't match what Rock did as a host.
 
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