Seth Rollins resents The Rock
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Do some fukking research R=g jryou have no credibility and no idea about the wrestling business
What did you think of the Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak being broken?
It sucked! Honestly, I thought it sucked. I haven't really talked much about it but I think it was a bad decision, a horrible decision. I don't have any say in the matter but to me, watching as a fan, it made me sick. Brock Lesnar beating him didn't seem to work and it really wasn't good that Brock left the day after. I just don't see how that made sense at all. I don't think anyone wanted to see the streak broken and it just didn't make sense to me.
First of all, you are WRONG about Brock Lesnar not main eventing. He had main evented Several PPVs since returning, from Extreme Rules where he lost to Cena, to Summerslam where he beat HHH to Last Month's PPV.
Second, you are spinning your argument and making zero sense. You said Batista was complaining about Brock being a PART TIMER, when he himself is a part timer. Your comment here that I LINKED, Batista is upset with Brock breaking the streak then the angle not being followed up on. That's an entirely different complaint than Brock being part time status. AND its a moot point because the WWE followed up on the angle for months after.
Third, You have gotten to nitpicking and spinning things so badly I'm losing track on what you are even complaining about now. You sound like Rollins. This thread is about Rollins comments about The Rock and turned into a discussion about EVERY wrestler making comments about Part-Timers. Just put it bluntly, do YOU disagree with Part-Timers's schedules or not?
TV shows and PPV shows draw more money, as does the carrying presence of a big name star outside the wrestling business. They bring in new viewers. This is booking 101.
I said I don't support part timers as champs only as attractions . Brock was used a attraction though at the beginning only fighting cena and losing and hhh another part timer attraction . He wasn't winning titles , I have no real problem wth once in a lifetime or Brock /hhh . I've been against part time champions be it the rock or Brock . ( Brock though may lose to a young star on the way out ) the rock /cena for the title did nothing for both parties as cena could beat all the all time greats and it would do nothing for his profile .
You guys dislike Rollins comments that's fine but there are possible reasons for wrestlers not liking the rock besides race Jericho said rock stayed by himself in his own dressing room which could seem standoffish . I know from Austins podcasts when he goes he walks around in the back talking to people . Batista to you didn't receive the same level as criticism as the rock because like I said he was back to be a full timer he was only part time because after GOTG he blew up and didn't return but even he tapped out to Bryan clean at mania and lost to the shield repeatedly . Finally with Brock he never claims to be anything other than a mercenary and he was in his own world really feuding with cena/hhh In the beginning and his prescence didn't really effect anyone but those Guys the rock though to be fair promo or not stated he was never leaving then promptly left .
and decided to give himself title shots .plus to be honest like Seth said its professional jealousy rock doesn't need wrestling one bit and I'm sure that a lot of guys want that freedom . And plus Seth is a up and coming main eventer so im sure he just showing outWhy not?
It has been a proven ratings and buyrate success and brought tons of classic moments. What reasons do you have for being against it?
Undertaker has been a part time attraction for over a decade now, did you have a problem when he did it?
And would you have had a similar problem with Batista winning the title because THAT was the original plan for WM30?
Rock and Brock both brought tons fo attention and boosted buyrates and ratings by holding the title and being back around. This is a business, the goal is to draw money. Once again, why is this a bad thing?
We don't dislike Rollins, nobody here has said anything BAD about Rollins as a performer. What we don't RESPECT is him speaking out of turn regarding something that doesn't effect him in the guise of jealousy. Rollins comments had him acting like a punk bytch and we don't like punk bytches.
You are taking the words of one guy with more credit than the words, actions and track records of countless others that say different. Everyone that has interacted with The Rock has said NOTHING BUT glowing words about him, even Cena and Punk who BOTH originally had harsh criticism turned around and spoke very highly of him. Jericho's SMALL comments didn't even say or mark anything out of character as Rock was treated like a celebrity guest and not a wrestler. You are speculating on how Rock's actions COULD be taken instead of focusing on facts of what he's actually done, which up to this point is very little to seem aloof.
What it sounds like is these guys can't seem to understand Rock IS a celebrity guest and not an on site contractor like them, so his standards are different.
Let me stop you right here because what you are doing now is mentally creating an image of what is going on rather than assessing only what is reported. This is not factual, its speculation.
You are missing the point and glossing over the details.
the difference between Rock and Batista was that Rock was embraced and wanted by the fans and some of the talent backstage got upset. Batista was REJECTED by the fans, yet embraced by the other talent.
Fact is, these guys all work for the company and are their to entertain the fans. Its not the talent's job to make decisions about what is best for the company, there job is to go out there and perform what their told. Rollins or ANYBODY speaking out about what another man does or should/shouldn't do is overstepping their boundaries and NOT something worthy of respect.
Finally with Brock he never claims to be anything other than a mercenary and he was in his own world really feuding with cena/hhh In the beginning and his prescence didn't really effect anyone but those Guys the rock though to be fair promo or not stated he was never leaving then promptly left .
AH! There we go, here is the root of the problem, you are still one of the scorned fans who take what you hear word for word and never forgave Rock for leaving.
Do you remember The Rock's promo in the mountains, do I need to link it up again? Rock ALREADY addressed this. When he said he "was never leaving" it didn't mean he was going to be back for every single show and its ridiculous if you even believe that. His words were meant that he was never going to leave and distance himself from the product like he had in the prior 7 years, which he HAS held true to since.
Tell me, why would you bring up this answered and irrelevant talking point if you were not scorned?
This is all speculation. You don't know Rollins and you don't know his motivations. None of us do. To even make up reason of why Rollins would speak out of turn like this about someone else, speaks more to what your real goals are...
You seem to be giving Rollins EVERY benefit of the doubt but automatically assuming the worst about The Rock and his actions. Tell me, why do you keep playing favorites and going off double standards? Do you feel the need to take up for your white brethren?
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Full time workers don't got a lot of love for part-time guys making bigger money.
It's just common sense
It's just common sense
If the Part-Timers's presence is getting EVERYONE bigger paydays, which they are, they should get more love.
Anyone that puts more money in my pocket is gonna get nothing but respect from me.
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Why not?
It has been a proven ratings and buyrate success and brought tons of classic moments. What reasons do you have for being against it?
Undertaker has been a part time attraction for over a decade now, did you have a problem when he did it?
And would you have had a similar problem with Batista winning the title because THAT was the original plan for WM30?
Rock and Brock both brought tons fo attention and boosted buyrates and ratings by holding the title and being back around. This is a business, the goal is to draw money. Once again, why is this a bad thing?
We don't dislike Rollins, nobody here has said anything BAD about Rollins as a performer. What we don't RESPECT is him speaking out of turn regarding something that doesn't effect him in the guise of jealousy. Rollins comments had him acting like a punk bytch and we don't like punk bytches.
You are taking the words of one guy with more credit than the words, actions and track records of countless others that say different. Everyone that has interacted with The Rock has said NOTHING BUT glowing words about him, even Cena and Punk who BOTH originally had harsh criticism turned around and spoke very highly of him. Jericho's SMALL comments didn't even say or mark anything out of character as Rock was treated like a celebrity guest and not a wrestler. You are speculating on how Rock's actions COULD be taken instead of focusing on facts of what he's actually done, which up to this point is very little to seem aloof.
What it sounds like is these guys can't seem to understand Rock IS a celebrity guest and not an on site contractor like them, so his standards are different.
Let me stop you right here because what you are doing now is mentally creating an image of what is going on rather than assessing only what is reported. This is not factual, its speculation.
You are missing the point and glossing over the details.
the difference between Rock and Batista was that Rock was embraced and wanted by the fans and some of the talent backstage got upset. Batista was REJECTED by the fans, yet embraced by the other talent.
Fact is, these guys all work for the company and are their to entertain the fans. Its not the talent's job to make decisions about what is best for the company, there job is to go out there and perform what their told. Rollins or ANYBODY speaking out about what another man does or should/shouldn't do is overstepping their boundaries and NOT something worthy of respect.
AH! There we go, here is the root of the problem, you are still one of the scorned fans who take what you hear word for word and never forgave Rock for leaving.
Do you remember The Rock's promo in the mountains, do I need to link it up again? Rock ALREADY addressed this. When he said he "was never leaving" it didn't mean he was going to be back for every single show and its ridiculous if you even believe that. His words were meant that he was never going to leave and distance himself from the product like he had in the prior 7 years, which he HAS held true to since.
Tell me, why would you bring up this answered and irrelevant talking point if you were not scorned?
This is all speculation. You don't know Rollins and you don't know his motivations. None of us do. To even make up reason of why Rollins would speak out of turn like this about someone else, speaks more to what your real goals are...
You seem to be giving Rollins EVERY benefit of the doubt but automatically assuming the worst about The Rock and his actions. Tell me, why do you keep playing favorites and going off double standards? Do you feel the need to take up for your white brethren?
Ok I thought you wanted to have a actual discussion and nope you just want to cape for the rock . Your giving the rock excuses he doesn't need . Rollins clarified his statement some by saying its some envy for the rocks success
this thread shouldn't be this long you would of thought he called him nicca or something
People forget that it's not a regular 8-5 job. If some guy works half the time in the office as you do but makes more money doing the same exact thing as you, yeah, that's a problem. But when you're in a business where being a draw matters, it's totally different.
No one is going "Robert's in the cubicle today!
Need to set up an account with him! 
"
You don't know how the pay days are with the network and yes you get a pay bump but not the same bump it'd be with being in the MAIN EVENT . You guys are applying this your job but that's not even a real comparison but let's say it is , in your job if you could be the CEO and get his pay but the company is alittle less successful would you do that or rather stay in your current position and get a decent raise and let someone else become the boss to make the company more successful ? Both positions have some merit
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Why not?
It has been a proven ratings and buyrate success and brought tons of classic moments. What reasons do you have for being against it?
Undertaker has been a part time attraction for over a decade now, did you have a problem when he did it?
And would you have had a similar problem with Batista winning the title because THAT was the original plan for WM30?
Rock and Brock both brought tons fo attention and boosted buyrates and ratings by holding the title and being back around. This is a business, the goal is to draw money. Once again, why is this a bad thing?
We don't dislike Rollins, nobody here has said anything BAD about Rollins as a performer. What we don't RESPECT is him speaking out of turn regarding something that doesn't effect him in the guise of jealousy. Rollins comments had him acting like a punk bytch and we don't like punk bytches.
You are taking the words of one guy with more credit than the words, actions and track records of countless others that say different. Everyone that has interacted with The Rock has said NOTHING BUT glowing words about him, even Cena and Punk who BOTH originally had harsh criticism turned around and spoke very highly of him. Jericho's SMALL comments didn't even say or mark anything out of character as Rock was treated like a celebrity guest and not a wrestler. You are speculating on how Rock's actions COULD be taken instead of focusing on facts of what he's actually done, which up to this point is very little to seem aloof.
What it sounds like is these guys can't seem to understand Rock IS a celebrity guest and not an on site contractor like them, so his standards are different.
Let me stop you right here because what you are doing now is mentally creating an image of what is going on rather than assessing only what is reported. This is not factual, its speculation.
You are missing the point and glossing over the details.
the difference between Rock and Batista was that Rock was embraced and wanted by the fans and some of the talent backstage got upset. Batista was REJECTED by the fans, yet embraced by the other talent.
Fact is, these guys all work for the company and are their to entertain the fans. Its not the talent's job to make decisions about what is best for the company, there job is to go out there and perform what their told. Rollins or ANYBODY speaking out about what another man does or should/shouldn't do is overstepping their boundaries and NOT something worthy of respect.
AH! There we go, here is the root of the problem, you are still one of the scorned fans who take what you hear word for word and never forgave Rock for leaving.
Do you remember The Rock's promo in the mountains, do I need to link it up again? Rock ALREADY addressed this. When he said he "was never leaving" it didn't mean he was going to be back for every single show and its ridiculous if you even believe that. His words were meant that he was never going to leave and distance himself from the product like he had in the prior 7 years, which he HAS held true to since.
Tell me, why would you bring up this answered and irrelevant talking point if you were not scorned?
This is all speculation. You don't know Rollins and you don't know his motivations. None of us do. To even make up reason of why Rollins would speak out of turn like this about someone else, speaks more to what your real goals are...
You seem to be giving Rollins EVERY benefit of the doubt but automatically assuming the worst about The Rock and his actions. Tell me, why do you keep playing favorites and going off double standards? Do you feel the need to take up for your white brethren?
You'll never hear Steve Austin say what Jericho claimed...I can promise u that. Dude be ETHERING and laughing at any caller that try to label the Rock a part timer. To Austin...it's common sense to have an attraction like Rock on the show at Mania or Raw.
But also remember mania is a draw in of itself and its a big honor to be in the main event ( and a bigger paycheck ) bigger than the increase you get from being just on the cardPeople forget that it's not a regular 8-5 job. If some guy works half the time in the office as you do but makes more money doing the same exact thing as you, yeah, that's a problem. But when you're in a business where being a draw matters, it's totally different.
No one is going "Robert's in the cubicle today!
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You'll never hear Steve Austin say what Jericho claimed...I can promise u that. Dude be ETHERING and laughing at any caller that try to label the Rock a part timer. To Austin...it's common sense to have an attraction like Rock on the show at Mania or Raw.[/QUOTE]
People mostly complain about rock main eventing and getting title shots right away not being on the card
You'll never hear Steve Austin say what Jericho claimed...I can promise u that. Dude be ETHERING and laughing at any caller that try to label the Rock a part timer. To Austin...it's common sense to have an attraction like Rock on the show at Mania or Raw.[/QUOTE]
People mostly complain about rock main eventing and getting title shots right away not being on the card
True, but guys like Rock, Hogan, Austin, etc. even making cameos add to the festivities to some degree (though probably less now since the Network basically eliminates PPV draws) and it isn't just about WM. It's about licensing and merchandise. Those guys can still bring in a lot of money for the company.
People forget that it's not a regular 8-5 job. If some guy works half the time in the office as you do but makes more money doing the same exact thing as you, yeah, that's a problem. But when you're in a business where being a draw matters, it's totally different.
No one is going "Robert's in the cubicle today!
I hate this place