Shaduer’s NFL Projection makes no sense

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With blame that can be placed on him and his dad. Don't put that on anyone else.
Or is that just what they told you. You don't think even a lil bit that ppl just didn't want to deal with Deion's son. Or another black qb with some ego? The kid works hard.
Sheduer is not as athletic as CACson Dart. Not even close..

He scrambles backwards alot

Cmon man
He's a quarterback, and he needs reps to not run from a defense with 3rd team O-line. blocking (or not blocking) for him. You have Joe Flacco and Carson Wentz out here starting. Don't tell me he's not athletic enough
 

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Or is that just what they told you. You don't think even a lil bit that ppl just didn't want to deal with Deion's son. Or another black qb with some ego? The kid works hard.

He's a quarterback, and he needs reps to not run from a defense with 3rd team O-line. blocking (or not blocking) for him. You have Joe Flacco and Carson Wentz out here starting. Don't tell me he's not athletic enough
He has enough he's just not the athlete that Dart is.

Shedeur has to stop running backwards in the pocket like he's playing Madden in real life :russ:

That is unacceptable
 

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Your logic is flawed. Recruiting aside, and college record aside (which really shouldn't be in the convo considering he was never at a top school competing for a chip)

Who is to say Shadeur wouldn't be as good or better than Dart playing with the first team and getting reps in.

I mean, of COURSE that’s your stance. Bc God forbid you just admit you were wrong.

For one, I already knew that was coming. I was BEGGING he’d get the job so we can definitively see he’s ass and put this to bed. While he’s on the bench y’all can hide behind ‘well we don’t know….’

More importantly, shaduer isn’t mobile at ALL. In a league where you practically have to be mobile to thrive. Like let’s unpack this. Top QBs this year: Drake maye, Bo Nix, Dart, Jayden, Jordan love, Caleb, Herbert, Baker, Daniel Jones, Mahomes. What’s the common denominator?!?

QB’s struggling and/or regressed:
Tua, Stroud, Geno, Cam Ward, Penix. What is the common denominator?!?!

In order to be a successful pocket passer you need to have elite arm talent (Rodgers, Stafford), or be blessed to have weapons out the ass (Goff).

But yea, let’s look at ALL of that and still pretend we have no idea how Shaduer would look right now. And I’m not even gona address that ‘the struggle of being black’ nonsense. Please
 

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This has been the only storyline i've followed all year.

1. Shedeur was the most accurate QB in training camp in terms of ball placement. And it wasn't that close.
2. The GM decided to pick Shedeur and the coach didn't agree with it. This is why you see him and Stefanski looking like there was friction after they drafted him.
3. Dillion Gabriel has always been ahead of Shedeur, not because he's talented, but because he knows how to read/study/call back Stefanski's playbook. He's the type of QB that will run the play exactly how the coaches want with no deviations.
4. The problem with that, is he's not physically capable of running all the plays. Unless he has a clean pocket with plenty of time to throw like he did at Oregon facing college defenses, all that book smart shyt goes out the window.
5. The reason why Shedeur hasn't gotten a chance is the same reason why Watson has played horrible in Cleveland. Shedeur ad libs. And has a gun slinger mentality. That coach doesn't want that. This was apparent, in Shedeur's first preseason game. Despite playing well, the coaches didn't like how he played because it was against what he drew up.
6. Some of the local Cleveland media are flat out racist when it comes to black quarterbacks. Hell, black people in general. And are quick to blame the black GM over the coach.
7. When Flacco got traded, the owner or GM did it because they wanted Shedeur to be the backup, not Flacco. And the coach was about to retaliate but making Zappe the backup instead.
8. Over the games Gabriel has played, even the local media who was trying to pump him up have slowly started to give Shedeur compliments for how he's been looking in practice.
9. At some point Shedeur will play. Either it will be because they stack up enough losses with Gabriel, or their inability to open up the playbook because of his physical limitations.
10. The narrative that the WR's are bad is overstated. Gabriel missed wide open receivers several times. There's no continuity.
11. Most of the players at this point would rather go with Shedeur over Gabriel at this point.


Stefanski is basically coaching like he has job security beyond this year, or he simply knows he's getting fired and don't give a fukk. He's basically trying to make it so that the owner forces a change. They fumbled on Baker Mayfield, then they couldn't develop Watson after he arrived. The offense they've been running all season has been not to lose. Even with Flacco, the offense was vanilla with little to no vertical passing.

And they got bailed out a few times against the Dolphins because of the refs. if Miami got a 2 core lead at any point in that game that forced Cleveland to pass, they were going to lose and Gabriel would've gotten exposed.
 
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This is what makes it so hard for black folk in America. The guy has been set to fail from day 1 of the draft, and no matter how many pro athletes who quite literally know ball say Shadeur is a top prospect... here you are saying otherwise.


That’s the main problem right there. Deions media friends had yall nikkas fooled.

And please stop making the MAGA sanders family a black issue, all of your arguments will fall short when you look at all the black quarterback playing, even the ones that’s failing and still getting chances to play. Fields is an example.
 

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Like how the fukk do you take victory laps and debate about a guy who’s taken….let me check……..….ZERO NFL snaps…:dwillhuh:

Seems this conversation is very premature at this point, on top of Jackson dart just looking “ok” right now:patrice:

It’s not even about that. It’s how everything has played out since the night of the draft. The Cleveland coaches sold everyone on it being an open competition when that wasn’t the case. And a lot of people were trying to sell Dillion Gabriel as being this all world QB and light years ahead of Shedeur when that was complete bullshyt.

Shedeur is obviously better than Kenny Pickett because they traded him. But he hasn’t even worked with the starters at all.
 

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It’s not even about that. It’s how everything has played out since the night of the draft. The Cleveland coaches sold everyone on it being an open competition when that wasn’t the case. And a lot of people were trying to sell Dillion Gabriel as being this all world QB and light years ahead of Shedeur when that was complete bullshyt.

Shedeur is obviously better than Kenny Pickett because they traded him. But he hasn’t even worked with the starters at all.
As a person who has been a browns fan since before i could walk….Browns dumb as fukk.

Cleveland browns is where promising QBs go to die.

You can’t really discern anything about Shedeur(or Gabriel for that matter) from the Browns handling so far.

I was just saying the debate that was brought up in here vs jackson dart is premature as fukk, Shaduer hasn’t gotten a chance and Jackson just looks “ok” at this point.

Maybe this thread/topic should be revisited in a couple months.
 

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That’s the main problem right there. Deions media friends had yall nikkas fooled.

And please stop making the MAGA sanders family a black issue, all of your arguments will fall short when you look at all the black quarterback playing, even the ones that’s failing and still getting chances to play. Fields is an example.
And the Anonymous people who said whatever they said about his interviews and the media talking about his speeding tickets like he got caught with a 8ball have you fooled.
 

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As a person who has been a browns fan since before i could walk….Browns dumb as fukk.

Cleveland browns is where promising QBs go to die.

You can’t really discern anything about Shedeur(or Gabriel for that matter) from the Browns handling so far.

I was just saying the debate that was brought up in here vs jackson dart is premature as fukk, Shaduer hasn’t gotten a chance and Jackson just looks “ok” at this point.

Maybe this thread/topic should be revisited in a couple months.

As an outsider, the owner doesn’t know how to hire a GM or coach. The current GM and head coach don’t seem to be on the same page. Gabriel is a 3rd round pick and they treating him like he was a top 5 pick. They ruined Mayfield and they ruined Watson. To make people believe Gabriel is that much better than Sheduer is laughable.

And as a Cowboys fan, the Browns make Jerry Jones look like a genius:scusthov:
 

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As an outsider, the owner doesn’t know how to hire a GM or coach. The current GM and head coach don’t seem to be on the same page. Gabriel is a 3rd round pick and they treating him like he was a top 5 pick. They ruined Mayfield and they ruined Watson. To make people believe Gabriel is that much better than Sheduer is laughable.

And as a Cowboys fan, the Browns make Jerry Jones look like a genius:scusthov:
They are currently paying 5(6?)QBs and only 2 of them are on the active roster.

Sanders and gabriel. got very few first teams snaps or preparation through training camp and preseason and now it’s two unproven rookies with little preparation “leading” the team :francis:


They claimed it was an “open” QB competition then had Shedeur and Gabriel throwing to water boys throughout camp.

None of it makes any fukking sense.

Shedeur fans and haters trying to make any sense of any of this is laughable to me, considering how dumb and dysfunctional i know the browns to be.

When Shedeur starts at some point this season he will be the like the 30th staring QB we’ve had in like 10 years.

I honestly feel bad for shedeur and gabriel that they were thrown into this fukkin circus :snoop:
 

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The more this shyt has gone on, I think it's Deion's fault. He didn't want his son playing for certain teams and there were really only like 4 teams who needed QBs (Giants, Saints, Steelers (ARod ain't long term), Browns). And if you aren't that level of being that standout as a prospect even with your father's possible shenanigans, then it could be ugly. And it got ugly. Stefanski blatantly didn't want him but the GM was like fukk it the more he fell.

I just hope he gets the chance to play. Dillon ain't lighting much of anything up and Shedeur is still way more accurate. Don't wanna wish injury on someone, but just hope the young breh gets a chance....A LEGIT CHANCE to play and win the job.
 

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The more this shyt has gone on, I think it's Deion's fault. He didn't want his son playing for certain teams and there were really only like 4 teams who needed QBs (Giants, Saints, Steelers (ARod ain't long term), Browns). And if you aren't that level of being that standout as a prospect even with your father's possible shenanigans, then it could be ugly. And it got ugly. Stefanski blatantly didn't want him but the GM was like fukk it the more he fell.

I just hope he gets the chance to play. Dillon ain't lighting much of anything up and Shedeur is still way more accurate. Don't wanna wish injury on someone, but just hope the young breh gets a chance....A LEGIT CHANCE to play and win the job.

I think if they lost to the phinz he would have seen the field earlier.
 
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