Shaq doubles down on winning without Kobe:” I coulda won 3 in a row with Vince “.

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Neither Tracy McGrady or Vince were winning that Portland or Kings series. They are both great players though.
LA took game 1 vs Portland with Kobe scoring 13 points on 4-9 shooting. They won game 4 with him shooting 5-15. They lost game 5 by 8 points with him shooting 4-13 with 6 turnovers and 6 fouls. Is that really so hard to replicate?
 

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Neither Tracy McGrady or Vince were winning that Portland or Kings series. They are both great players though.
thats was lost in this debate, sure kobe didnt play well in that indiana series other than the pivotal game 4 that could have swung the series the other direction, but they dont even make it to the finals that first year with tracy or vince.
 

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LA took game 1 vs Portland with Kobe scoring 13 points on 4-9 shooting. They won game 4 with him shooting 5-15. They lost game 5 by 8 points with him shooting 4-13 with 6 turnovers and 6 fouls. Is that really so hard to replicate?
Cultist pretending like that Portalnd team was some sort of juggernaut because it went 7 as if Kobe’s DOGshyt TRASH ass performances in games 2 and 5 weren't part of the reasons that series went 7 games in the first place is pure comedy :lolbron:

nikka had games in that series were he went

2/9
5/15
4/13

Yet no other player could have delivered a similar effort LMAO

Just complete babble from these brain dead ass weirdos
 

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Lakers with another top perimeter talent like TMac would EASILY have won B2B at the least.… people always talk about the “gauntlet” they had to go through to get to the finals but in reality the Lakers with Tmac would have been by far the most talented team in everyone of those series for those first two rings.….

People fail to mention whenever they talk about the lakers 3 peat that the first 2 rings came back when the Spurs didn't have Parker or Manu.…

Back when Bonzi fukking Wells was Portlands best perimeter player...

Back before Sac had Bibby and JWill was a liability bricking and turning the ball over everywhere.…

They didn't even have to play Dallas in either year who probably would have been their closest rival as far as pure talent goes… even tho they were choke artist anyways and the Suns were being led by 33 year old Cliff Robinson :mjlol:


TMac and Shaq would have RAN THRU that shyt those first two rings... EASY… there's a reason they were able to win in ‘99 with Kobe only giving them 21 a game.… only these goofy ass cultists believe otherwise
 

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Yao didn't even play in the playoffs the season prior to Ron getting there you fukking incompetent buffoon
Thought they played the Mavs the year before Artest got there :yeshrug:

Statement still stands. Artest comes to the Rockets and leads them further than TMac led any team. James Harden is more proven in the playoffs than TMac :laff:
 

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Thought they played the Mavs the year before Artest got there :yeshrug:

Statement still stands. Artest comes to the Rockets and leads them further than TMac led any team. James Harden is more proven in the playoffs than TMac :laff:
In stereotypical Kobe Cultist fashion...when presented with actual facts they simple decide to double down on dumb :mjlol:


Like I always say.…the most incompetent... mentally ill... low information stanbase in sports by far :dead:
 

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LA took game 1 vs Portland with Kobe scoring 13 points on 4-9 shooting. They won game 4 with him shooting 5-15. They lost game 5 by 8 points with him shooting 4-13 with 6 turnovers and 6 fouls. Is that really so hard to replicate?
This argument doesn't work when T-Mac hasn't left round one, I can nitpick every single game as well. All I know is Tracy would have not had that game 7 comeback where Kobe outscored, outrebounded, more assists and more blocks than Shaq or the games vs Kings next year, you guys are severely downplaying playmaking and defense, he has never shown it.
What he did show was never getting to 2nd round and constantly throwing his teammates under bus because he couldn't beat Baron Davis:manny:
 

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This argument doesn't work when T-Mac hasn't left round one, I can nitpick every single game as well. All I know is Tracy would have not had that game 7 comeback where Kobe outscored, outrebounded, more assists and more blocks than Shaq or the games vs Kings next year, you guys are severely downplaying playmaking and defense, he has never shown it.
What he did show was never getting to 2nd round and constantly throwing his teammates under bus because he couldn't beat Baron Davis:manny:
Not only that. Tmac broke down while barely playing in the post season. Is it not reasonable to think his ass would’ve got hurt WAY sooner and not even available for a 3peat?
 
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