Shaq doubles down on winning without Kobe:” I coulda won 3 in a row with Vince “.

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Kobe and Duncan probably win 3

Kobe and Dirk probably win 3


Put Kobe with any premier big man in that era and the results are the same.

Easy to speak on dead mans legacy lol
Both can be true. Its not hating on Kobe
 

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Like I always say.…the most incompetent... mentally ill... low information stanbase in sports by far :dead:got him now babbling about Joel Embiid and James Harden after humilitating himself babbling about Meta World Peace :mjlol:

Look for a playoff closer and choose someone that chokedworse than James Harden and Embiid brehs
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Pau Gasol never won a playoff GAME until he got traded to the Lakers. However, he was their missing piece because the Lakers were not gonna win with Kwame Brown still on the roster. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that players with TMac and Vince’s ability could’ve won with Shaq. Would they have won with Pau Gasol? Probably not.

Absolutely right. The difference is they’ll hold it against Kobe for playing with Shaq then turn around and also hold it against him for playing with Pau. Then even stretch it to the coach. Meanwhile Riley, Magic and Kareem win 5 together and no one bats an eye.

You can’t put players that shrunk in pressure situations into championship situations and automatically say they get the same results. You can’t replace Kyrie with James Harden and automatically say he hits the same clutch playoff shots for the Cavs when needed. And again, James lapped TMac and VC when it comes to leading teams in the regular season and playoffs so its even worse for them
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Look for a playoff closer and choose someone that chokedworse than James Harden and Embiid brehs
:mjlol:
Like I always say.…the most incompetent... mentally ill... low information stanbase in sports by far :dead:got him now babbling about Joel Embiid and James Harden after humilitating himself babbling about Meta World Peace :mjlol:
 

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this such a wild thread.

Its like you can't say "I think Kobe is top 10-5 shyt even top 3 without these goofy nikkas losing they mind if you don't have him unarguable goat.

the logic being used in here is crazy. Pau aint do shyt solo, got with Kobe a ATG and now he winning rings. So its out of the realm of possibility TMAC who was more talented than Pau would not be able to win with Shaq :wtf: you realize conceding that point does not diminish Kobe right:wtf:
 

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NEVER SAID NOTHIN CLOSE TO "NAZI SHIIT"

U GOT RAN OUT THAT THREAD WHEN U CLAIMED I WANTED ARABS EXPELLED FROM THE REGION WHEN ALL I SAID WAS JEWS AND ARABS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CO-EXIST THERE JUST LIKE THEY DO IN ISRAEL

U A FRAUD WHOS SIMPLY MAD BECAUSE WERE KOBE HEADS, JUST LIKE @NYC Rebel
That ain’t what you said you habibi terrorist mutherfukker. You said the West Bank belongs to Israel and international law like Israel is banned from building settlements on Palestinian land and kicking Palestinians out there homes should be ignored. You’re a fascist religious extremist. Nobody calls the West Bank Judea and Samaria and isn’t a fascist. That’s like calling Poland Prussia or Ukraine NovaRussiya. You know what the fukk you mean you lying fakkit.
 

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Shaq been jealous of Kobe for 20+ years.

He literally admitted that he ran to Miami "to prove" he could win a chip without Kobe. So instead of running it back in LA, his focus in '04 was to worry about showing people he could win with other players because people said whatever about him needing Kobe.

Dude's issue has always been how insecure he is. He has less rings than Bean and mad years later, that still bothers him. He spent his washed years trying to hop to whatever team he felt were contenders to catch up with Kobe in rings and couldn't do it. So these statements today are calculated and petty. But they speak to how much of a sucka Shaq has always been. Dwight was right about dude. He's never been happy with his legacy and needs to do and say childish sh*t constantly to feel better about himself.
 

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Kobe Stan’s have been dictating the narrative about Kobe, Shaq is fighting back since he don’t have a stanbase like Kobe.
I blame Shaq, Magic and Kareem for letting these new basketball fans give Kobe the mantle of greatest Laker,

How Kobe the greatest Laker over Kareem who has better numbers or Magic who revolutionized the game? Maybe Shaq but out heart of hearts we know Shaq was a better player.
 

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Game 7 Lakers were down 10 going into the 4th quarter and Kobe was the main one who pulled that game in.
 

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He only won 1 with Wade and nothing with Penny tho :patrice:
A 3 peat has only been done 2 x in the modern era (MJ's bulls and Shaq/Kobe). The fact this is even being discussed is ridiculous and a result of legbt stans with an agenda.

Second, Shaq did nothing as top dog with elite cast prior to the 3peat or after. Am I suppose to believe his peak was only during the Lakers title window that coincided with Kobe? Dude should have 6+ rings the way some talk about him.
Shaq won with a young Wade when he was 33, fat, and washed af

he went to the finals with Penny at 22 and was the last player to beat Jordan in the playoffs :heh:
 

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And he did :russ:

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Yeah, they’d get bounced with McGrady in the 1st round, maybe 2nd round then McGrady leaves and they go to the WCF next year where Shaq runs into the Kings and gets swept again.

That’d most likely be what happens honestly :pachaha:
 
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