She Made The First Move, They Got Married 4 Months Later

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If that were a sister, I wonder how long that proposal would’ve been. Brehs be stringing sisters along, ring up the first “good hair“ they can find. Brehs are the easiest lick to the world.

Truth be told, dating for years before marriage, is just stupid and dumb. Black community as a whole is pretty much done tho. It’s a population, rather than a community at this point. The black population.

This sounds like something an agent would say.
 

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Not when it comes to a wife. You look for wife for the same reason men did a millennia ago. Marriage is an old institution. Once again, some of you are not looking for a wife.

Dating is not pre-marriage, it's dating. The confusion between dating and marriage is one of the ills of modern societies on that field. Difference of nature and purpose. And as the perpetual rise of divorce number shows, dating does not help marriage.

Time is precious, not only for women. If you're vetting a woman for marriage, 3 years is a waste of time. It adds no benefit to your quest. It's indeed a waste. A waste for you and her.
The same reasons do not apply when society is nowhere near the same. If this the case, why not marry as soon as a girl develops secondary features?

Or why are we limited to one wife?

Why not marry a relative?

If you die, is your brother in line to immediately take her on as a wife, or vice-versa?

The world is not as small or brutal as it was when you were limited to your village in which everyone knew each other and you needed to couple off and procreate as soon as possible due to high mortality.

Dating is pre-marriage, you are unable to tell me why it isn't. Unless you straight up handing out applications with a woman to check off boxes and answer 3-5 open-enders, you aren't learning enough in 6 months. The perpetual rise in divorce is a number of factors, men not bending the knee in 6 months isn't one of them.

Undergoing the different shifts in a relationship and understanding what it's like to share the same dwelling would add plenty of benefit to a man's quest before signing that contract. If any man here met someone on Independence Day, today ain't enough.
 

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The same reasons do not apply when society is nowhere near the same.
That's why marriage is dead. As I said, cats are not looking for a wife (the goal of marriage). They are looking for something else. Hence, the X years of dating.


why not marry as soon as a girl develops secondary features?
In a lot of places, even in the West, a teenage girl under 18 can get married.


Or why are we limited to one wife?
Christianism. And even before that, monogamy was the norm in a lot of places. This is not something new.

Why not marry a relative?
The interdiction of incest is OLD. You find it in most cultures for millennia.

But in a few years, it will be possible. So.



If you die, is your brother in line to immediately take her on as a wife, or vice-versa?
Nope. It's not new. Do you know why the marriage between Henri VIII and Catherine d'Aragon was annulled?


I already gave you an answer to why marriage and dating are not the same; difference of nature and purpose.

Multiplying the years of dating is not a protecting gear. People date today and divorce keeps rising. It's enough to prove the lack of utility of multiple years of dating when it comes to marriage.

You can date if you like it, but the idea that dating for a long time prepare better for marriage is a modern illusion.
 

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That's why marriage is dead. As I said, cats are not looking for a wife (the goal of marriage). They are looking for something else. Hence, the X years of dating.



In a lot of places, even in the West, a teenage girl under 18 can get married.



Christianism. And even before that, monogamy was the norm in a lot of places. This is not something new.


The interdiction of incest is OLD. You find it in most cultures for millennia.

But in a few years, it will be possible. So.




Nope. It's not new. Do you know why the marriage between Henri VIII and Catherine d'Aragon was annulled?


I already gave you an answer to why marriage and dating are not the same; difference of nature and purpose.

Multiplying the years of dating is not a protecting gear. People date today and divorce keeps rising. It's enough to prove the lack of utility of multiple years of dating when it comes to marriage.

You can date if you like it, but the idea that dating for a long time prepare better for marriage is a modern illusion.
If marriage is dead because the world is not the same the rest of your argument is voided. None of what I asked is being practiced in first world countries or as the standard in many others.

You also didn't really answer them, because you know you aren't as a grown man marrying a 15 year old due to her beauty and childbearing window being as large as possible. Plenty of cultures allow a man capable of providing multiple wives, but you won't do that. You are not going to marry your cousin. You are not going to marry your brother's wife in his passing.

Telling me these things happened means nothing, I didn't ask you these things out of lack of knowledge. If we're supposedly looking for a wife for the same reason as all these millennia you would've been able to answer all these things individually to fall in line with what you believe.

There is no difference in "nature and purpose". There is a difference is how much nature has to rule your survival and decisions.

It is not enough to prove that years of dating contributes to divorces because there are too many other factors at play, with the #1 factor being that women in the West in particular are given a financial incentive to marry and divorce without shame. Marrying after 6 months doesn't alleviate this.

It is not an illusion, but the response to the lives of young adults expanding and extended before marriage. Again, your social reach goes beyond a blocks now and we're no longer needing to sire 9 babies to have 5 of them make it to 21, nor are we liable to die from an infected cut on our foot at 30.
 

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It is not enough to prove that years of dating contributes to divorces because there are too many other factors at play, with the #1 factor being that women in the West in particular are given a financial incentive to marry and divorce without shame. Marrying after 6 months doesn't alleviate this.
I never claimed that marrying after 6 months only alleviate this. I claimed that marrying after 5 years does not alleviate that.

That's my argument, marrying after a year or 5 years does nothing much when it comes tho chances of success of a marriage. In other words, dating for a long time does not secure or increase the success of a marriage. Hence it's useless.

Recent history s clearly showing us that dating for multiple years does not provide benefit when it comes to marriage. It's a waste of time. And it's even dangerous making people think that dating for along time will help them. It does not.

Marriage in the West/westernized societies is a gamble. If you understand that, you will either gamble or not. You can gon GMB.

But if you do gamble, don't think dating for 4 years will increase your chance of winning. It won't.

One year is enough. More is superfluous.
 

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5-10 years ago I would have been like hell no my wife has to work. But now thinking about it, it wouldn't be so bad having your wife raise and teach the kids instead of a stranger at daycare. If I came home to a clean house and warm food I'd have 0 issue.
That’s what mine did while finishing her masters. Both toddlers made it to 3.5 & 2.5 before sending them to preschool so she could start her career after she graduated. We are stacking cheddar now since it was her choice and she wanted the babies out the house so we put them in a STEM preschool. Only thing that wasn’t getting done while she was not working was the clothes and cooking which I picked up the slack on since both babies are super high energy :manny:
 

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Pretty sure they knew each other more than those 4 months lol.

They both Muslim. From an old viral post of hers, I thought they met through church/whatever connections. :manny:
 
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The Coli really advocating getting married after 4-6 months now? :lupe:


I don’t advocate for it but I DO know a few couples (3) who got married within 6 months of knowing one another and their still together and seemingly happy.

There’s usually ALWAYS exceptions to the rule.

Breh seems to have his head on straight and is about his business, so i’m sure even if they were to breakup he’ll be ok financially. Thats about all one can hope for given modern day marriages. That in event of divorce your finances don’t get raped and you can have joint custody of your children


Me personally I think 2 years of dating is acceptable before marriage. The first year is your “fun” year and the second year is when you REALLY get to know the person. The issue nowadays a lot of couples wind up pregnant during the “fun” year and that of course adds an entirely different dynamic
 

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Good for them though, I wouldn't want my wife working 40 hours either


It's crazy how women fought so hard to work, but a lot don't want to work. I mean what's what?:jbhmm:

Women fought for the right to work so they had options and could actually choose whether to be a SAH wife and mother or not...
 
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