She Should Know You Want the Cheeks...

[FTBS]

Hmmmmm

Idk if I agree with all those. I don't think women should be pursuing men and that respectful shyt is not always an option. Being polite only work 50% of the time honestly.

I think that the key to cutting a lot of BS out is women being up front and direct with their interest. If she dont flat out tell you she interested then you dont proceed. Men cant front like she was giving him vibes or try to foot in the door and wear a chicks down anymore. They know where they stand and have no choice but to accept it.

If a nikka dont accept a polite curve then thats on him.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

That’s crazy, but…. people want to be courted. You have to be courted first. If a random person told you, I want to blow your back out tonight, you would say no even if you were attracted and needed the adjustment.

You know damn well then 30-40 men would give it to you if you asked for it.

He courts you, sees how receptive you are to his advances/game, then invites you out. All a while, he’s trying to smash. YOU know that as well. You say yes to the date, yall go out and have a good time.

He drops you off to your place. Now the question is, should he say, “I want us to break your headboard right now.”?

Yes, we are grown but a least ten years ago, unless I’m grabbing on your thighs, the small of your back, and whispering in your ear, I may have to ask for another date. Again the end goal is your cookie and cookie only. Date two and three is where I may get the signs that you want to smash. It finally happens but now we go together.

If I was upfront, no cookie would have been given. I guess the point is, she what time she is on during date one. Many men don’t want to scare the prey off though. It’s all a game and it’s hard for adults to be adults.

I’m glad to be out the game.

1. What part of this conversation suggests that we are talking about approaching strangers and trying to fukk upon first meeting. This is an adult conversation sir.

2. Again, there is a difference between attraction a pursuit. This conversation is about pursuit.

3/4. I would hope he is taking me on a date because he wants to spend time with me. If he thinks date = sex he's too socially behind to date me. I only have sex after I feel like this is a safe and consistent person. If a guy asked me to have sex after a first date I will tell him "No." Him being silent about it doesn't improve him chances with me. But at least if he speaks up he can move on if he's looking for immediate sex.

5/6/7. Hmm okay. Yes it's obvious you're out the game. You sound like a old timer. Men no longer have to do all that for sex. Women are much more willing to have sex with no courtship. I'm just not one of them. Lol

 

[Unbothered]

Well the current status quo is that women are mad that the man they want isnt approaching them and they (sometimes quite literally) cry about it instead of just approaching him and expressing unambiguous interest.

Men and women handle “interest” differently.

Men, we always have options, and by that I mean we keep an open mind and have numerous women on standby, in case one doesn't work out, there's another opportunity ahead.

See, for most of us men, we'll have multiple interests in numerous women at the same time. Now, it might not be this way always but in the case of rejection, we're likely to shrug our shoulders and move on to the next woman we've had interest in.

Whereas women will more often than not put all their chips (interest) in one guy that they're secretly crushing on, hoping that he'll notice and make the first move, now every now and then that woman may step forward first but let's say she does and the man she's crushing over rejects her.

It affects her psyche a bit more because she didn't see it coming, since in her view, she sees herself as a woman with a nice body, face, etc, etc, and so getting rejected is more shocking because in her mind she's wondering what type of man would reject the aforementioned, and that's why women 9/10 don't make the first move because it's somewhat of an ego/self-esteem thing.

Nowadays, tho some women have encouraged the whole “date 'em all sis” perspective rather than putting their chips on one guy.

 

[Mr.bocario]

Exactly. Being less vocal does not improve your chances of getting laid. It's a scary way out and any grown man should not be taking chances.

I remember a while ago a good friend of mine was dating a woman that he later married. I remember him telling me he really liked her, but she said that she was just looking for a "platonic travel partner."

He didn't like that, and I told him that if he wanted to have sex with her while they travel he needed to say that.

He took my advice, she agreed, i'm sure they smashed viciously while traveling and now she's his wife and they have been happily married over 5 years.

Fortune favors the bold.

But, if a woman clearly states her intentions, we have to respect that. Fortune might favor the bold, but wisdom favors the cautious

 

[7th Letter Specialist]

If you’re referring to the guy who kicked that woman out for not knowing what time it is, that’s on her. wtf you mean “spiritual awakening”. But I also get what you’re saying. Some ppl you gotta ELI5.


Me, however. I’m tellin her straight up. I done lost out on some women because I was too upfront lol. I’m not fina “I wanna be intimate” “we should hang out”.

Girl: Oh, you just tryna fcuk, huh

Me:

I come from the era of putting patnas on, and two mans, so I GOTTA be upfront.

 

[Belize King]

1. What part of this conversation suggests that we are talking about approaching strangers and trying to fukk upon first meeting. This is an adult conversation sir.

2. Again, there is a difference between attraction a pursuit. This conversation is about pursuit.

3/4. I would hope he is taking me on a date because he wants to spend time with me. If he thinks date = sex he's too socially behind to date me. I only have sex after I feel like this is a safe and consistent person. If a guy asked me to have sex after a first date I will tell him "No." Him being silent about it doesn't improve him chances with me. But at least if he speaks up he can move on if he's looking for immediate sex.

5/6/7. Hmm okay. Yes it's obvious you're out the game. You sound like a old timer. Men no longer have to do all that for sex. Women are much more willing to have sex with no courtship. I'm just not one of them. Lol

I turn 40 in a month.

I’m the Coli’s average age.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Well the current status quo is that women are mad that the man they want isnt approaching them and they (sometimes quite literally) cry about it instead of just approaching him and expressing unambiguous interest.

If youre cool with the status quo then okay, but other cultures have actually normalized people just going up and talking to the people they want to go out with. If you put all the burden on men to approach and express interest, what you see is a lot of men going through all these extra steps to protect themselves from the embarrassment that comes with misreading a woman's behavior and ambiguous words as romantic interest. You see men also realizing too late that the woman he liked was interested(he assumed she was just being friendly) but was just sitting around waiting for HIM to make a move.

Then that man runs the risk of falling into that manosphere pipeline because navigating this shyt is so confusing and embarassing that he actually believes the promise that those influencers use to lure men in, the promise to "explain" female behavior and give men the "truth" about what women are REALLY like and how to get them to go out with you. And typically most of the advice begins with "ignore women. They're too stupid to actually know what they want and dont take no for an answer. They actually love persistence."

Women should also fear rejection when approaching a man they are interested in because it builds their character too. Men should also know how to say "no" to a woman and respectfully decline. Both men and women dont feel respected by the opposite sex and this is what fuels the gender wars that clowns online have used to feed their addiction to attention and fast money.

There are other solutions than just going up to random men and then asking him to date her.

Men's easy access to p*ssy is not my concern.



It's dangerous and makes her look easy. If a woman told me she has issues getting approached I would tell her to get a better social life, develop better social skills and become a badder bytch.



I only ask men out if we already have an established relationship (not necessarily romantic). I ask people I am cool with out all the time. That's how I killed my fear of rejection. Not by throwing myself at any man who looks decent.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Ya'll only do what women tell you to do?

I thought ya'll where ALPHA males who chart your own paths. Lol

 

[RamsayBolton]

i agree in principle but "lets hang out in 4 AM" seems plenty overt to me

 

[TripleAgent]

Ya'll only do what women tell you to do?

I thought ya'll where ALPHA males who chart your own paths. Lol

Many women react badly to directness. I'm the "brutal honesty" type. Oil and water to most women.

 

[Scaaar]

i agree in principle but "lets hang out in 4 AM" seems plenty overt to me

It is. But some women/men choose to act brand new. But most people who think that way are usually head cases anyway so it's best to steer clear of them lol

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Men and women handle “interest” differently.

Men, we always have options, and by that I mean we keep an open mind and have numerous women on standby, in case one doesn't work out, there's another opportunity ahead.

See, for most of us men, we'll have multiple interests in numerous women at the same time. Now, it might not be this way always but in the case of rejection, we're likely to shrug our shoulders and move on to the next woman we've had interest in.

Whereas women will more often than not put all their chips (interest) in one guy that they're secretly crushing on, hoping that he'll notice and make the first move, now every now and then that woman may step forward first but let's say she does and the man she's crushing over rejects her.

It affects her psyche a bit more because she didn't see it coming, since in her view, she sees herself as a woman with a nice body, face, etc, etc, and so getting rejected is more shocking because in her mind she's wondering what type of man would reject the aforementioned, and that's why women 9/10 don't make the first move because it's somewhat of an ego/self-esteem thing.

Nowadays, tho some women have encouraged the whole “date 'em all sis” perspective rather than putting their chips on one guy.

I would say ideally thats how most men would be moving but in reality youve got men behaving the way you describe women behaving. These are the men we call simps and friend zoned. These are also the same men that crash out when a woman rejects them and make a huge scene instead of just moving on.

I think if both were just transparent and conditioned to not treat rejection like a massively traumatic event, we would have a lot more healthy relationships around.

Ive had experiences where women approached me and told me they just got tired of waiting for me to make a move. Ive had women leave me notes with their phone number. I think that kind of thing should be more normal. If both stop over thinking this shyt, you'd see a lot less incels, entitled women, simps, crash outs etc.

Ironically just speaking plainly is something we already know how to do. Before kids hit their teenage years they just straight up say what they want. They haven't learned how to mince words or bullshyt themselves and other people they just straight up talk to each other and say if someone is making them angry or hurting their feelings or whatever. But when we age and become teenagers we get very self conscious and afraid of being embarrassed. I think if instead of just letting that shyt fester, its better to tell young people to just be honest, respectful, patient, and dignified with how they treat themselves and each other.

We got dudes out here still hanging on to the trauma they had when they approached a girl and she hit him with the face the moment he started talking and her friends were laughing at him. That shyt isnt cool either and I feel girls should understand that behavior as something that should be beneath them.

You probably had males to give you that guidance and tell you to not focus on one specific girl but have options and they probably taught you how to not take the rejection personally. Problem is a lot of boys are being raised in single mother households and the older men they interact with are clowns that dont know shyt, or are scam artists online who just tell them that women are brainless gold diggers that only go for tall athletic men or men with cash and you need to be one or both or else youre completely fukked.

 

[King_Kamala61]

It's almost 2026. Are we still not telling each other we want to have sex and leaving it up to a "vibe"?

That's a dangerous game gentlemen. I hope we're having real adult conversations by now.

I'm all about HANDJOB and HANDJOB ACCESSORIES....I tell them I can relate better with touch and sensitivity. It's more sensual to lay in a woman's arms and let her control my orgasm and arousal.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

This definitely will clear up any ambiguity.....What is doesn't account for is that many women have hangups with sex,especially if it's outside of a relationship.

But, there is much value in tact... but that's only as valuable as the recipients level of comprehension.

For every woman that would prefer directly expressed intentions, there is another who just wants sex to "happen"...and directly asking for it is what will get you a no.

It's not as extreme as that app someone made where both parties have to give authentication to their consent to sex....But with how many people are entering into adulthood with low social skills and ability to read cues, this might save you from an awkward interaction.....or save your life.

It crazy how ya'll care about doing what some random women wants you to do instead of what's in your best interest.

 

[jmegamar]

Yeah but that's how very young people act. I would hope anyone over 30 y/o conducts themselves better than that and would expect mature interactions especially when it comes to scenarios that can ruin your life.

When I was out in the streets most women I dealt with were in there 30s/early 40s and my dikk always came out either the 1st date or the 2nd date. Most women in that age range are more up front what they want.