Shoe Othani reign on top was shorter than leprechauns

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Wait, a rookie simultaneously has a top-10 OPS and a top-10 ERA and someone is calling him overrated? :dead:

If Ohtani had enough games to qualify he'd be 20th in OBP, 8th in slugging, and 8th in OPS. Give him as many at-bats as the other leaders and he'd be top-10 in home runs too.

That's already great for a guy in his first MLB season. Then add in that from the mound he'd be 12th in WHIP, 8th in ERA, 6th in K/9.

And all while battling injuries. That's ridiculous. Just being average in both hitting and pitching would be epic, and he was great.
 
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The problem is that the Japanese be wearing the shyt out of their pitchers, so by the time they get here they fall apart.
I don't buy that.
American pitchers are limited and still getting surgeries left and right.

It is one thing to pull a pitcher on the 6th because you think 3 times through the order the batters will get to him.

But removing a guy in the 6th because he has 97 pitches and you want to save him...that's trash. That precaution has saved exactly 0 pitchers.

There have been 20 pitchers who have gotten TJ surgery in 2018. None of them were workhorses by any stretch of the imagination.

Pitching is just inherently predisposed to injury.
 

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I don't buy that.
American pitchers are limited and still getting surgeries left and right.

It is one thing to pull a pitcher on the 6th because you think 3 times through the order the batters will get to him.

But removing a guy in the 6th because he has 97 pitches and you want to save him...that's trash. That precaution has saved exactly 0 pitchers.

There have been 20 pitchers who have gotten TJ surgery in 2018. None of them were workhorses by any stretch of the imagination.

Pitching is just inherently predisposed to injury.
That still doesn't dispute the fact that the Japanese overwork their pitchers.
 

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Ohtani joined Babe Ruth in 1919 and Jimmy Ryan in 1888 as the only players with 15 home runs and four pitching wins in a season.:blessed: Numbers be off the charts if showtime didn't get hurt. Which wastes another year of prime mike trout. I don't kno who we going to get to be our new manager next year. The Angels better pull of some big pieces in the off season or trout gonna walk when his contract is up:why: I mean arte has tried but they just been getting burned on the big names, Albert, Josh, cj Wilson. I hoped uptown be better. We need a third baseman and two more pitchers Albert needs to retire
 

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Ohtani joined Babe Ruth in 1919 and Jimmy Ryan in 1888 as the only players with 15 home runs and four pitching wins in a season.:blessed: Numbers be off the charts if showtime didn't get hurt. Which wastes another year of prime mike trout. I don't kno who we going to get to be our new manager next year. The Angels better pull of some big pieces in the off season or trout gonna walk when his contract is up:why: I mean arte has tried but they just been getting burned on the big names, Albert, Josh, cj Wilson. I hoped uptown be better. We need a third baseman and two more pitchers Albert needs to retire
Albert Pujols is not what he used to be.
But a big part of that might be the defensive shift.

Without these extreme shifts, Pujols may very well still be an .800 OPS player.

How the shift has ruined Albert Pujols
 

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OP taking some serious Ls :mjlol:


ohtani is hitting

.289
.367 OBP
.579 SLG
18 HR

and he can throw 100mph fastball. tell me that's not impressive especially for a dude who can't even speak english and had an injury which basically slowed him down for few months


had he stayed healthy he would've been the most impressive rookie because he really is a baby babe ruth:mjlit:
but they saying he needs a tommy john surgery :wow:
 
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