Shooting at Country Music Festival in Las Vegas. UPDATE: 61 dead, up to 515+ injured

[thekingsmen]

Ohh so now you in the business of perdicting terror attacks?

U got all the bases covered

I mean its better than being a sheep thinking ridiculous storylines about fragile people able to do rambo style killings with heavy automatic machine guns that arent even accurate and no camera in sight to capture it ever happening.

 

[thekingsmen]

Bro too many people going in and out..not only the guest ...but other people who wanna check out the hotel

U can easily sneak in guns...he didn't bring them all in at once...just here and there

Right because LV is the camera capital of the states and cctv cameras are all over. Stop trying to rationalize the b.s. storyline that change every damn week.

 

[Robbo]

Right because LV is the camera capital of the states and cctv cameras are all over. Stop trying to rationalize the b.s. storyline that change every damn week.

Depending how he brought bagged them up, he could get by using the normal elevators. He'd just be a guy bringing in bags, like a lot of people do. The weird part is the part about him using the freight elevator. Not sure if that has been confirmed, but that makes no sense. Somebody would have had to give him access to that.

 

[infamousred]

I'm not discounting ur knowledge of weapons.

But if there's multiple shooters why do they ALL stop AND start shooting simultaneously?

i believe they tried their best to hide the fact that there was another shooter.but they certainly don't all stop and start at the same time. there's 2 or 3 times where they messed up the cycles because before one magazine starts to empty you can hear the other one(5.56), start to let off before the initial is over and its a higher pitch sound but it isn't an echo or a ricochet. like i stated before echos do not change in tempo and you can distinctly make out different patterns of gun fire. they would've had a better chance masking the bf mg if they would've fired ak's at the same time because its much more of a similar round. add to the fact that they can also do hundred round drums and are way less likely to jam or create a failure to feed like those overrated ass ar's. even then the bf mg's steady, constant fire rate is too hard to try to recreate with any kind of rifle. especially that crank sound...once you hear it you will never forget it. i guess they figure once they can ban bump stocks that they'll go to the light triggers and then try to phase out semi autos altogether.

 

[thekingsmen]

Depending how he brought bagged them up, he could get by using the normal elevators. He'd just be a guy bringing in bags, like a lot of people do. The weird part is the part about him using the freight elevator. Not sure if that has been confirmed, but that makes no sense. Somebody would have had to give him access to that.

You have to have special cases for these weapons because it holds them tight and they dont make alot of noises. No bag in the world would be able not make noise from those heavy machinery. The cases would be extremely heavy as well.

No camera shows him carrying cases or bags...period.

 

[jadillac]

the security guard, was supposed to be on Hannity last night to interview, but canceled and he is supposedly "missing"

 

[jadillac]

i believe they tried their best to hide the fact that there was another shooter.but they certainly don't all stop and start at the same time. there's 2 or 3 times where they messed up the cycles because before one magazine starts to empty you can hear the other one(5.56), start to let off before the initial is over and its a higher pitch sound but it isn't an echo or a ricochet. like i stated before echos do not change in tempo and you can distinctly make out different patterns of gun fire. they would've had a better chance masking the bf mg if they would've fired ak's at the same time because its much more of a similar round. add to the fact that they can also do hundred round drums and are way less likely to jam or create a failure to feed like those overrated ass ar's. even then the bf mg's steady, constant fire rate is too hard to try to recreate with any kind of rifle. especially that crank sound...once you hear it you will never forget it. i guess they figure once they can ban bump stocks that they'll go to the light triggers and then try to phase out semi autos altogether.

Maybe the bump stock isn't 100% way to make an authentically automatic, maybe it altered the fire a few times?

I dunno.

I just think if there were more shooters there'd be more damage and more witnesses.

 

[Arithmetic]

 

[Stone Cold]

the security guard, was supposed to be on Hannity last night to interview, but canceled and he is supposedly "missing"

 

[Arithmetic]

Las vegas . They have to protect their money (hotels) at all cost.

 

[FUPA]

I’ve worked at Greektown casino in Detroit (not as busy as Vegas but still a major casino with international clients) and a few hotels. This is post 9/11 people havevterroisr paranoia. In both industries there was always a protocol for suspicious activity. I will say again if he wasn’t a millionaire high roller he would have been questioned

How many times have you been to vegas? Ive seen people with carts full of luggage. Ive been to conventions where vendors lug 4-5 huge pelican reinforced cases with product to their room. Not one single problem besides a bell hop jumping to help to get that tip. I can also fit my 5 AR and 1 mini 30 in my duffle bag i use with wheels. Yall crazy thinking this isnt possible or that he should have thrown a flag. Ive been at Mandalay bay when theres a line of 70-100 guest checking in. No way is 1 dude with luggage over a few days is gonna raise any suspicion.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Las vegas . They have to protect their money (hotels) at all cost.

MGM resort not going doing without a fight

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

How many times have you been to vegas? Ive seen people with carts full of luggage. Ive been to conventions where vendors lug 4-5 huge pelican reinforced cases with product to their room. Not one single problem besides a bell hop jumping to help to get that tip. I can also fit my 5 AR and 1 mini 30 in my duffle bag i use with wheels. Yall crazy thinking this isnt possible or that he should have thrown a flag. Ive been at Mandalay bay when theres a line of 70-100 guest checking in. No way is 1 dude with luggage over a few days is gonna raise any suspicion.

The checking lineups are crazy packed
Each family member got like 2 suitcase

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

How many times have you been to vegas? Ive seen people with carts full of luggage. Ive been to conventions where vendors lug 4-5 huge pelican reinforced cases with product to their room. Not one single problem besides a bell hop jumping to help to get that tip. I can also fit my 5 AR and 1 mini 30 in my duffle bag i use with wheels. Yall crazy thinking this isnt possible or that he should have thrown a flag. Ive been at Mandalay bay when theres a line of 70-100 guest checking in. No way is 1 dude with luggage over a few days is gonna raise any suspicion.

Yes I’ve been to Vegas. And everyone is missing my point. 43 guns is gonna take at least 18-20 bags. That is suspect if moving it in solo or you’re not a major vendor. If anything staff is gonna think you’re shooting porn. I’m going back to my original point and what the brother said. He would have been flagged if he wasn’t a millionaire high roller. Even the brother said he probably skipped staff a c note and got to use the special elevators.

After working in arenas, hotels, and in downtown major cities everything he did was suspect, unless you have the cash to quiet it down, which he did

 

[Absolut]

Yes I’ve been to Vegas. And everyone is missing my point. 43 guns is gonna take at least 18-20 bags. That is suspect if moving it in solo or you’re not a major vendor. If anything staff is gonna think you’re shooting porn. I’m going back to my original point and what the brother said. He would have been flagged if he wasn’t a millionaire high roller. Even the brother said he probably skipped staff a c note and got to use the special elevators.

After working in arenas, hotels, and in downtown major cities everything he did was suspect, unless you have the cash to quiet it down, which he did

It’s a common Vegas perk for higher rollers to use the not crowded service elevators, at lots of hotels. He also had half that amount of guns in the room. Working at 400 room hotels isn’t the same as 3400 room hotels, by any stretch of the imagination. Nothing he did is going to draw scrutiny, at any time