Should Billionaires Exist?

[Drip Bayless]

Billionaires have existed since the beginning of time in one form or another. From feudal and serfs in europe and asia. To Gold rich kingdoms in south america and africa.

There will always be the haves and have nots. there will always be people that horde all the wealth and others who will take it by violent force.
Any one who thinks more laws will change the course of human history is delusional.

The existence of corruption is not a justification for it
There has always been racism and tribalism, does that mean it should also still exist?

 

[rapbeats]

why is it assumed that you cant move? Ton of companies being started in wyoming and a small silicone valley is growing there. I read somewhere that spending $1 there gets you $2 in value (its like 0.7 if you in NYC and even in North Carolina)

but people aint trying to leave i have family that refuses to leave north jersey despite being insanely expensive

notice what you speak on vs what i'm speaking on. you talk about possibilities that have a very very tiny chance of happening. I speak on probability things that have a very very high chance of occurring. why does this matter? I might win the mega lotta tonight. but odds are I wont. should I tell the wife to sell our little house and get ready for the big mansion? i mean...I MIGHT win right?

maybe 30 years from now when these companies stop being silly and start allowing ALL employees that dont have to do manual labor to work from home(or any where with a solid secure wi-fi connection. but until then, MOST of us are stuck at the job in some building wherever said job is. can you move to a different state? sure, but how many good jobs do they have in that area based on the average persons skill sets?

we're not having a discussion on whats possible like we're talking to a 10 year old boy or girl about how they need to dream big. we're talking about people working right now. sure..keep dreaming big and making moves accordingly but tomorrow the rents due. you need something for right now. how is that happening under todays current conditions where you have a select few people owning more wealth than most of us put together. on no earth is that Ok. period. there is no LOGICAL reason that anyone including these billionaires, can give me that makes LOGICAL moral sense. They really believe all that money is better in 2 or 3 hands than it is in most of our hands. which means, they would rather have us wait til they hand us something during the christmas charity event than actually pays us right so we can buy our own gifts.

You want the overall economy to be better and less volatile? pay people right and start paying your fair share in taxes.

they dont even make economic sense. only for selfish reasons and hoarding reasons.

 

[rapbeats]

Sure, let's cap it with taxes.

capping it with taxes by the same establishment /corporate dems and corporate repubs wont do a thing for us. it will look cute on the books but the reality will be the same, rich get richer poor get poorer. because any law you have has to be backed by having actual teeth. what will happen to these companies if they dont pay the taxes ? if the answer is a million dollar fine. wow. thats light work for someone bringing in billions. i would take that hit to keep my billions. But if you make that fine a billion dollars. uh oh, now we're talking about something. and if you say, i you dont pay up within X amt of time(a year). then the ceo and the board will be subject to jail time. how much jail time you say? well if the law has no teeth, it would be one week in jail or 6 months of probation. they would do that standing on their heads as they say. light work. but a law with teeth says you have to do 5 years and add a year for every billion over. its now starting to get a little scary. now the law is starting to have force behind it. meaning these people will have to choose, leave america and get hit with super taxes if they want the american people as customers when they're abroad, or abide by the rules and regs of this said country. real simple.

 

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[Drip Bayless]

Looks like the temporarily embarrassed millionaires have arrived
"If I drink a lot of coffee and stay up late, I can have a billion too" headass

 

[Reece]

Looks like the French Revolutionary wannabes have arrived. “If we just kill all the rich people, all the problems will be fixed” headass
Went and brought in Napoleon right after

 

[MMS]

notice what you speak on vs what i'm speaking on. you talk about possibilities that have a very very tiny chance of happening. I speak on probability things that have a very very high chance of occurring. why does this matter? I might win the mega lotta tonight. but odds are I wont. should I tell the wife to sell our little house and get ready for the big mansion? i mean...I MIGHT win right?

maybe 30 years from now when these companies stop being silly and start allowing ALL employees that dont have to do manual labor to work from home(or any where with a solid secure wi-fi connection. but until then, MOST of us are stuck at the job in some building wherever said job is. can you move to a different state? sure, but how many good jobs do they have in that area based on the average persons skill sets?

we're not having a discussion on whats possible like we're talking to a 10 year old boy or girl about how they need to dream big. we're talking about people working right now. sure..keep dreaming big and making moves accordingly but tomorrow the rents due. you need something for right now. how is that happening under todays current conditions where you have a select few people owning more wealth than most of us put together. on no earth is that Ok. period. there is no LOGICAL reason that anyone including these billionaires, can give me that makes LOGICAL moral sense. They really believe all that money is better in 2 or 3 hands than it is in most of our hands. which means, they would rather have us wait til they hand us something during the christmas charity event than actually pays us right so we can buy our own gifts.

You want the overall economy to be better and less volatile? pay people right and start paying your fair share in taxes.

they dont even make economic sense. only for selfish reasons and hoarding reasons.

life is not about odds

building a business is not gambling and neither is moving to a different state. Work isnt the only way to make money. Learn to sell and you'll never be hungry again.

What im saying is not for children, but adults whom have become indoctrinated with drone mentality. Listen to yourself talkin about lotto and shyt. I started my business with $5k. But technically I could have started with $100

it just takes a mind that is driven and willing to do what it takes to earn money.

talking about who should have money and so forth is the path to tyranny. Always is and has been throughout history. If you cant see it I'm sorry but I'd strongly urge you to read what you posted and really ask yourself is it really like playing the lotto cause it most definitely is not. The hardest part of my journey was really asking deep basic questions about what I really see.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

In theory, why not? But in their current form I wouldn't be sad if they were wiped out in some manner. I'm sure they think of us in much the same way.

Millionaires and billionaires aren't bad because of their wealth, but how they USE their wealth. Ultimately it leads to the masses being overworked and starved. It doesn't have to be that way either. How much money would they lose if there was less of a wage gap? The fact that many in that wealth class think that $15 an hour is a premium wage for low skilled work but any money that flows into their coffers, by fair means or foul, is never enough and should always be more as they have "worked hard" and "earned" it.

Most don't hate these idiots because they are rich, it's because they are just horrible people in general.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

In this thread supposed black posters have slathered on "cap face" and made such caricatures of themselves that it can only be compared to white people performing minstrel shows in blackface. It reads like satire but these poor fools are serious. You hate to see it.

Sad what a few crumbs and a pat on the head will do.

 

[DEAD7]

Bill Gates actually pushed for eugenics instead of better anti-corruption and local economic systems. He's helped destroy the US public education system and pushed for its privatization (which has been shown to bring *no* improvements), explicitly became wealthy through the exploitation of his own workers as well as massive profiteering through the exploitation of workers in the third world on everything from materials for his products to newfound areas to pump capital to avoid taxation.
He's an anti-competitive monopolist (which has been obvious since the 90s, I'm honestly assuming you're older than a teenager and likely remember that); same as well for John Hopkins: the man himself was born wealthy off of the exploitation of enslaved African peoples in the United States and the corporate practices of the university and hospital endowed by him are the stuff of legend in terms of worker exploitation and even the destruction of the neighborhoods around them in part due to the literal bankrupting of its own employees and the (largely AA) population in the area directly outside the hospital and university.

Is there a functioning present day system anywhere(preferably in a 1st world country) that doesn’t exploit?
Or are you continually comparing reality to an idea in your head?

 

[DEAD7]

Far better taxation and redistribution than anything proposed by centrists. Global poverty is a fools measure; and the absolute vast majority of people who are holding a billion dollars or more, in anyway, have a chunk of their wealth generated by exploitation.

I was questioning the pie/correlation.
More people have access to food and water than ever before, Moore people have access to proper sanitation than ever before, more people are literate than ever before, more people have access to the internet than ever before...
The speed of poverty alleviation(however you wish to define it) in the last 25 years has been historically unprecedented, as has the increase in billionaires.
This is in spite of adding 2 billion to the worlds population.

...and no one lives in extreme poverty in America which has by far the most billionaires.
This fixed pie, ‘were losing because they have billions’ just doesn’t ring true.

And leftist are openly calling for their murder in this thread.
Ya’ll wanna kill Jay-z and Oprah they just need to be taxed more ...

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I was questioning the pie/correlation.
More people have access to food and water than ever before, Moore people have access to proper sanitation than ever before, more people are literate than ever before, more people have access to the internet than ever before...
The speed of poverty alleviation(however you wish to define it) in the last 25 years has been historically unprecedented, as has the increase in billionaires.
This is in spite of adding 2 billion to the worlds population.

...and no one lives in extreme poverty in America which has by far the most billionaires.
This fixed pie, ‘were losing because they have billions’ just doesn’t ring true.

And leftist are openly calling for their murder in this thread.
Ya’ll wanna kill Jay-z and Oprah they just need to be taxed more ...

Are the 550k homeless people living in extreme poverty?

I do agree that billionaires should be allowed to exist..theoretically. if theyve done everything legally..at least morally neutral..and pay their fair share..then sure.

But we all know there are advantages the wealthy have to make more money at a faster rate than those less well off.

If the playing field was level there would be less demonization and complaints

 

[DEAD7]

Bill Gates actually pushed for eugenics instead of better anti-corruption and local economic systems. He's helped destroy the US public education system and pushed for its privatization (which has been shown to bring *no* improvements), explicitly became wealthy through the exploitation of his own workers as well as massive profiteering through the exploitation of workers in the third world on everything from materials for his products to newfound areas to pump capital to avoid taxation.
He's an anti-competitive monopolist (which has been obvious since the 90s, I'm honestly assuming you're older than a teenager and likely remember that); same as well for John Hopkins: the man himself was born wealthy off of the exploitation of enslaved African peoples in the United States and the corporate practices of the university and hospital endowed by him are the stuff of legend in terms of worker exploitation and even the destruction of the neighborhoods around them in part due to the literal bankrupting of its own employees and the (largely AA) population in the area directly outside the hospital and university.

You better not be besmirching Billionaire Bill from a personal computer.

 

[jerniebert]

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Are the 550k homeless people living in extreme poverty?

I do agree that billionaires should be allowed to exist..theoretically. if theyve done everything legally..at least morally neutral..and pay their fair share..then sure.

But we all know there are advantages the wealthy have to make more money at a faster rate than those less well off.

If the playing field was level there would be less demonization and complaints

You’re soft