Should Billionaires Exist?

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again, proper taxation and redistribution is what will stop billionaires from becoming billionaires. thats the part you dont get.
You can't sustain this kind of Pizza. where the pizza gets larger and larger the slices shared become less shared, yes that one slice the rest of us still have is larger than it was before. but its not large enough to become 4 slices on a large size pizza with 12 slices.Its more like a slice and a half size slice. You keep gong this route and you will have pitch forks and people in the streets. People are not going to keep watching you drive around in million dollar cars while they're sleeping in tents and in their cars while they are still going to work everyday to make you even richer.
In what world do you trust that government...any government will properly tax and redistribute their wealth over a prolonged period of time, though?
 

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In what world do you trust that government...any government will properly tax and redistribute their wealth over a prolonged period of time, though?
first ask yourself this question. Why do we speak about the government as if it's some AI or Robot or some being outside of us? Why do we talk about the government as if the government isnt a bunch of Us' in suits and pants suits? As if we dont Vote for a bunch of suits to write up bills, pass bills on our behalf?

People say but corporations and rich people control everything. only because You keep voting for the same idiots they put in your face.

Which one of you idiots are pushing bloomberg up in the polls? There isnt enough rich people to pull that off. He can buy all the ads in the world. And any pollster that asks me "how do you feel about bloomberg" would get the same answer from me every time. "Who...that rich clown trying to buy the election. Mr stop and frisk? tell that clown to get out of the race."

Which one of you are voting for crazy a... biden?

Thats your own fault,

Which one of you idiots voted for trump?

Thats your own fault


What group of idiots keeps voting in mitch mcconnell?

on and on and on.

You keep doing this to yourselves. So we will keep getting the same result.

So knowing the above ask the question again. i'll do it for you.
In what world will the american voter become savvy enough to vote for his/her own interest?


You vote for a bunch of Squad members and Bernies as presidents and congress people and you will get whatever tax laws you think is ethically correct. If you keep voting for do the corporate dance dems and corporate loving repubs. you will keep getting a lack of tax laws for the corporations and the ultra rich. its not rocket science. you dont need Neil de Grasse Tyson to help you on this one.
Just do a few simple google searches and watch about 5 to 10 20 min youtube shows. and you will know everything you need to know about every single candidate in every single race. there is no excuse anymore. we have the internet. its easy now. CHOOSE wisely or dont.
 

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first ask yourself this question. Why do we speak about the government as if it's some AI or Robot or some being outside of us? Why do we talk about the government as if the government isnt a bunch of Us' in suits and pants suits? As if we dont Vote for a bunch of suits to write up bills, pass bills on our behalf?

People say but corporations and rich people control everything. only because You keep voting for the same idiots they put in your face.

Which one of you idiots are pushing bloomberg up in the polls? There isnt enough rich people to pull that off. He can buy all the ads in the world. And any pollster that asks me "how do you feel about bloomberg" would get the same answer from me every time. "Who...that rich clown trying to buy the election. Mr stop and frisk? tell that clown to get out of the race."

Which one of you are voting for crazy a... biden?

Thats your own fault,

Which one of you idiots voted for trump?

Thats your own fault


What group of idiots keeps voting in mitch mcconnell?

on and on and on.

You keep doing this to yourselves. So we will keep getting the same result.

So knowing the above ask the question again. i'll do it for you.
In what world will the american voter become savvy enough to vote for his/her own interest?


You vote for a bunch of Squad members and Bernies as presidents and congress people and you will get whatever tax laws you think is ethically correct. If you keep voting for do the corporate dance dems and corporate loving repubs. you will keep getting a lack of tax laws for the corporations and the ultra rich. its not rocket science. you dont need Neil de Grasse Tyson to help you on this one.
Just do a few simple google searches and watch about 5 to 10 20 min youtube shows. and you will know everything you need to know about every single candidate in every single race. there is no excuse anymore. we have the internet. its easy now. CHOOSE wisely or dont.
You just put a whole lot of words in my mouth, and were a condescending shyt head in the process. You're more the typical American than you think, pal.


Ignoring all your childish nonsense...the point is much larger than America in this present moment. I'll rep this ridiculous nonsense you just typed out if you can name one human government in our history that accomplished even half of what you're expecting for a prolonged period of time. One...go do your googles and get back to me.

The point is that government is made up of people just like us. And, while you seem to think that if everyone was as brilliant as you then everything would work perfectly, reality suggests all human governments succumb to selfishness, greed, and corruption. Its an innate human quality that's larger than "cacs are evil lolz".
 

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You vote for a bunch of Squad members and Bernies as presidents and congress people and you will get whatever tax laws you think is ethically correct. If you keep voting for do the corporate dance dems and corporate loving repubs. you will keep getting a lack of tax laws for the corporations and the ultra rich. its not rocket science. you dont need Neil de Grasse Tyson to help you on this one.
Just do a few simple google searches and watch about 5 to 10 20 min youtube shows. and you will know everything you need to know about every single candidate in every single race. there is no excuse anymore. we have the internet. its easy now. CHOOSE wisely or dont.
:huh:

you do know that's the whole reason there are different parties and various spectrums of beliefs within parties? there are people who want protections for corps and the wealthy, people who want to socialize the economy as much as possible in the US, and others who are in between. it's strange you think everyone is aligned to voting for your idea of ethics.

your idea of taxation really does rely on the fallacy that it will be redistributed or used for good, when there are a whole spectrum of ways that money could be used from increased defense spending (clearly not a help), to infrastructure (overall benefit to society, but not as impactful as social spending for the most vulnerable), to paying down the deficit (another overall ok thing but no large net impact), to providing more subsidies and tax incentives to industries and big business (L for the average american), to funding social programs or forcing businesses to behave ethically (your supposed idea of what the outcome would be)...there is no guarantee how that money will be used. you're better off tackling the system that encourages/allows corporate greed, and if billionaires disappear, ok, but simply trying to tackle billionaires and not the system beneath is pointless
 

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Who cares? Them not being billionaires, won’t put an extra dollar in your pocket.
 

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again, proper taxation and redistribution is what will stop billionaires from becoming billionaires. thats the part you dont get.
You can't sustain this kind of Pizza. where the pizza gets larger and larger the slices shared become less shared, yes that one slice the rest of us still have is larger than it was before. but its not large enough to become 4 slices on a large size pizza with 12 slices.Its more like a slice and a half size slice. You keep gong this route and you will have pitch forks and people in the streets. People are not going to keep watching you drive around in million dollar cars while they're sleeping in tents and in their cars while they are still going to work everyday to make you even richer.
… again, we enjoy the highest standard of living and fewer people are dying of hunger and sickness than ever before at a time when we have more billionaires than ever before.
:ehh:Im slow though, and could be failing to understand/see what your saying.
Could you please explain how billionaires themselves have directly reduced the quality of life of Americans and/or harmed the American people by simply existing.:ld:
 

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Bill Gates destroys many of the absolutes stated in this thread about billionaires... as does John Hopkins and many others. :snoop:
Great now let's talk about the Purdue family, withdrawing over 10billion dollars from the company as the opoid epidemic got worse and worse. Now they're being sued. Declaring for bankruptcy, and only want to pay out the damages from the companies newly generated revenue, instead of their own pockets.

NOW THATS A fukkING PROBLEM
 

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No there shouldnt because you cant possibly make that much without exploiting people. also any society that thinks having billionaires takes priority over everyone having basic things is a sick twisted society
 
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Bill gates doesnt destroy anything. hes obsessed with birth rates in Africa, he tried to destroy the public education system, hed vote for a racist like trump over warren cause he would have to pay slightly more taxes and he was gaslighting like warren was asking him to pay 100 billion, she isnt even asking him to pay the 10 or 20 he said he would gladly pay. all these billionaires are greedy privileged a$$holes. even the way gates got rich is shady.
 
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