Should Educated/Wealthy Blacks do More to Help The Community

[marcuz]

A crack rock is much more valuable on the street than a flat screen. It doesn't make sense to go out an do crime if you gotta catch the bus or find a ride to go do it. It doesn't make sense to do crime far away from your home where the police are more strict then try to run all the way home.

aint nobody talkin bout crackheads doing petty theft. it's jackboys out there that got cars, guns and all the means to rob whites. but like you said, they don't wanna do dirt far away from home cus they'll actually take a risk at getting caught. they would much rather rob their neighbor, so much for black unity.

And you wonder why they wanna go in your pockets.

i guess this is a chicken vs egg argument now. they wanna rob folks because they're too cool for a 9 to 5 job. nikkas would rather be the CEO of a company that don't exist.

The amount of educated middle class black people raises every year, we are using the programs and we are doing better.

agreed.

I disagree. You never hear white folks talking about how poor whites are lazy and ain't shyt. They just say black people are and nikkas like you believe them.

well, you do hear it, just have to read between their codewords. they use words like "liberals" and "obama supporters" when talking about lazy, poor whites. even though many of them s are conservatives in the south.

That's so ironic coming from you. You just generalized that all poor people are out robbing people.

i didn't say all poor people rob, i said these hoodlums are out robbing people. it's still a generalization but it's more accurate than your "educated people want whats in your bank account" remark.

 

[Chris.B]

No they shouldn't most black nerds are looked down upon and laughed at.

After the come up they remember it all. I don't blame them

 

[Anothergirl]

i haven't read the whole thread yet..but i'm pretty sure i agree with whatever Marcuz is saying..

 

[marcuz]

No they shouldn't most black nerds are looked down upon and laughed at.

After the come up they remember it all. I don't blame them

you see the type of comments on here all the time

"you just mad you don't get any p*ssy","you can't get a black woman","you're just corny w/no game"

now most posters shrug these comments off, but lets assume they're correct. why would the 'black nerds' in return help these derelicts out? what's their motivation?

people hate to admit the disdain goes both ways and is usually initiated by ones who need the help.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Poor parenting is a problem. But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids?

Even if the kids try to excel they still find themselves way behind their non-poor counterparts because the schools suck. There are plenty of kids who go to school everyday and try very hard just to make to college and find out they can't cut it.

And you can stop with this line about black people frowning upon the educated. White people call each other nerds everyday B. Most white people tv is nothing but fukkary you ever watched MTV?

Parents job is to raise their kids to reflect their morals. principles, and ethics. Everything else falls into place.

If the tree is jacked up, the fruit it bares will be jacked up as well..

You don't have to be"educated" or whatever that means to produce offspring with integrity who will be beneficial to society

 

[Rawtid]

Live in cleveland now. And the one library in the hood has a sign on the door that says students aren't allowed with parental supervision.

That's sad.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Parents job is to raise their kids to reflect their morals. principles, and ethics. Everything else falls into place.

If the tree is jacked up, the fruit it bears will be jacked up as well..

You don't have to be"educated" or whatever that means to produce offspring with integrity who will be beneficial to society

I know what their job is. Point is they are not doing it because their parents didn't do it. Now they're raising kids who will grow to not do it either. Somehow the cycle must be broken. And calling people lazy and stupid no matter how true it is will not break the cycle.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

man, miss me with what white people do; we aren't in the white community. a bad boy in their community is a dude that rides a bike or has a tattoo. a bad boy in our community is a nikka that's possibly killed several people.

and it's not the schools job to parent kids. even if some tried to correct behavioral issues, it wont stick when they still go home to the same toxic environment. can't believe you'll say some retarded shyt like "But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids"

we're so used to being coddled, we now expect other people to properly parent our children.

thats real shyt right there, people not understanding that even in the most rural fukked up areas of Appalachia and shyt like that don't shun the educational system or murder at the rates that we do.

If you look at many of the successful areas of the country its revolving doors of money going through those places. One cat makes a program that helps 10 kids, they in turn invest in the program 15 years down the road, help 50 kids and so on and so forth.

We don't do these things in the black community, and the ones that are trying just plain ole don't have the funds. Not to mention the short end of the grants/loans stick from the states and feds.

 

[marcuz]

thats real shyt right there, people not understanding that even in the most rural fukked up areas of Appalachia and shyt like that don't shun the educational system or murder at the rates that we do.

If you look at many of the successful areas of the country its revolving doors of money going through those places. One cat makes a program that helps 10 kids, they in turn invest in the program 15 years down the road, help 50 kids and so on and so forth.

We don't do these things in the black community, and the ones that are trying just plain ole don't have the funds. Not to mention the short end of the grants/loans stick from the states and feds.

are you on drugs, you responded with this already like an hour ago

 

[Rawtid]

are you on drugs, you responded with this already like an hour ago

He forgot!!!

 

[philmonroe]

man im saying between us nikkas who are ambitious and tryna do way more than that its nothing to be happy about, but in general its a lot of money. we both saying its nothing because we want a lot more and we still young and trying to get more.

I hear you I'm just saying in the context of this discussion 100k is alot thats all.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

are you on drugs, you responded with this already like an hour ago

my fault...shyt was already open and i reposed cuz i got home and i got faded...


so yes i am on drugs, currently

 

[jadillac]

It's like 2Pac said, once you get some money, you wanna stick around and help the people who are still broken down like you once were, but you can't b/c now these people will rob you to come up.

To be honest tho, there's only a handful of nikkas that are willing to listen.

 

[BigMan]

Blame the nikkas that made fun of them when they were grinding for that education and legit paper. No one wants to build, but leech off of the finished product. That is how many successful black folk in the community feel like. When the community stops glorifying ignorance and negativity, then the attitudes of people will change.

this. but many/most educated/upperincome blacks DO give back

 

[the bossman]

First off the majority of immigrants to America end up poor and lower class. Out of those only SOME of them make it to middle/upper class just like SOME poor black people make it.

Immigrants are offered social services in excess of what poor American citizens are. They are eligible for all the same welfare, healthcare, etc, as everybody else and they are also awarded with help that only immigrants are given. Those Africans you speak of were set up from the day they were born to move to America find success and bring the rest of the family along. These people have family at home who have pooled their resources and contacts in order to send their children here with a head start. Yes they are poor, when they get here. But lack of money is not the issue for upward mobility, it's lack of opportunity.

Put it this way. If a foreigner can gather up enough money/resources in order to make the flight to America and complete the citizenship requirements, then he was already way better off than a poor American born into generations of poverty.

bruh what you're saying is just not true. what type of help are immigrants given that is not available to US citizens? be specific. You actually think the US is rolling out red carpets for African immigrants who come here?

Take for example the issue of college tuition. This is big issue that is just now starting to change. A broke nikka in many states was able to qualify for in-state tuition based on residency, while a non-US nikka who just flew in from Nigeria could not. There are countless kids who've come from Africa that have to repeat a year or 2 because their high school or college credits are not accepted. Many African immigrants who come here also cannot apply for certain jobs because of lack of US citizenship or green card.

I don't care if the family was able to pool resources to buy a plane ticket. An African immigrant who comes here with no money is not 'way better off' than a poor African American when many opportunities are not available to them initially because of their legal status. Saying african immigrants who come here with not even a pot to piss in have more opportunity than African americans is crazy. If they was so better off and the families were so loaded why would they be coming here That makes no sense.

This is a real question. Why can African immigrants who come here and face all those initial obstacles, STILL take hold of the same opportunities available to African Americans here and flourish? At some point we have to stop with the bs excuses and try to understand this. lack of opportunity is FAR from the answer.