Should Educated/Wealthy Blacks do More to Help The Community

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So much ether on both sides in here

 

[marcuz]

This is a real question. Why can African immigrants who come here and face all those initial obstacles, STILL take hold of the same opportunities available to African Americans here and flourish? At some point we have to stop with the bs excuses and try to understand this. lack of opportunity is FAR from the answer.

100% on point. african immigrants are coming over here and excelling faster than white people.

they come from an intact family structure and values hardwork and education. it's primarily the reason why africans and african americans aren't compatible. they view us harsher than whites view us, they know we've wasted a lot of potential.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

1. Black people are only 12% of the population so the few affect the many.

2. Black people aren't a monolith. Jews? Well they have religion in common. What do black people have in common? Ya'll don't even know where you came from. There is no shared link via culture or any thing else. That alone makes it hard to get you all on the same page.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

In 8th grade I had this teacher, he was different than any I've ever had before. He was a retired military dude that invested and made some good money and was teaching because he seriously wanted to make a difference. He would go at anyone for the kids, even the principal and school staff members, he had nothing to lose because he didn't need the money. Dude took his own money, HIS OWN MONEY, and bought our entire class brand new books and decided to teach the class away from simple curriculum and do it the right way.

We werent allowed to take these books out of class, if you wanted to study you needed to take notes. Dude went on a small vacation and when he came back the students had destroyed the books and had written curse words and profanity all through the books (subs didn't know they were his and left the out). I'll never forget how badly that cat cussed our class out. God only knows how much money he spent for like 30 brand new textbooks

So I understand why people get theirs, get out, and never come back

 

[BigMan]

west indians are also doing better than african-americans

we so

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

1. Black people are only 12% of the population so the few affect the many.

2. Black people aren't a monolith. Jews? Well they have religion in common. What do black people have in common? Ya'll don't even know where you came from. There is no shared link via culture or any thing else. That alone makes it hard to get you all on the same page.

Don't know if you're white but you definitely nailed one our biggest issues just then

 

[MeachTheMonster]

bruh what you're saying is just not true. what type of help are immigrants given that is not available to US citizens? be specific. You actually think the US is rolling out red carpets for African immigrants who come here?

They get the same social services available to poor Americans plus they get other loans, grants, ect only available to immigrants. No they are not rolling out the red carpet. Poor black people are usualy coming from a very bad place, socially, mentally, and emotionally.

Take for example the issue of college tuition. This is big issue that is just now starting to change. A broke nikka in many states was able to qualify for in-state tuition based on residency, while a non-US nikka who just flew in from Nigeria could not. There are countless kids who've come from Africa that have to repeat a year or 2 because their high school or college credits are not accepted. Many African immigrants who come here also cannot apply for certain jobs because of lack of US citizenship or green card.

Again if they can pay for college they have more resources than the average black American. If they cannot pay for college there are plenty of loans/grants that will help them. There are countless kids that go to American high schools then make it to college and spend two years taking remedial college courses because their high schools were shytty. Black people regardless of where they come from are ineligible for jobs due to their skin color. Did you know that Nigerians are some of the most educated immigrants, yet they are also some of the least employed?

I don't care if the family was able to pool resources to buy a plane ticket. An African immigrant who comes here with no money is not 'way better off' than a poor African American when many opportunities are not available to them initially because of their legal status. Saying african immigrants who come here with not even a pot to piss in have more opportunity than African americans is crazy. If they was so better off and the families were so loaded why would they be coming here That makes no sense.

They come here because the ceiling is higher. They pool resources and send a couple of the kids over, who can then become successful and go back to get their family. The point is if they have that type of support and upbringing, they are way better off than poor black Americans born into generations of poverty. You have to put it into perspective. This isn't our country. Just 100 years ago we were slaves, just 50 years ago there were laws on the books that purposefully oppressed black people. My parents are older than 50. In one generation are all blacks folks supposed to just shake off history and make up for 400 years of oppression? Anyone coming here during that time that wasn't subject to this is better off.

You are comparing apples to oranges here. Not having a "pot to piss in" is the least of poor black American's problems.

This is a real question. Why can African immigrants who come here and face all those initial obstacles, STILL take hold of the same opportunities available to African Americans here and flourish? At some point we have to stop with the bs excuses and try to understand this. lack of opportunity is FAR from the answer.

Plenty of black people face the obsitcles and flourish as well. I'm not making excuses I'm talking about what I and other more fortunate black people can do to help more people make it. I understand that I made it to where I am because others created and shared opportunity with me so I'd like to share my success with those who need it.

 

[JasonSJackson]

i live in a moderately decent neighborhood in south central, los angeles. the racial mockup is around 77% black, miss me with that bullshyt. i didn't say anything about stunting, and you don't have to "stunt" to have your shyt broken into.

in another area of south central, a rental property was broken into several times in one year. turned out one of the neighbors was actually committing those crimes. later found out EVERY house on that street had been broken into at least once. on my street, a handful of houses were robbed in 2012. one of which involved a woman being tied up at gun point. these people weren't "stunting," just trying to live their life.

why should people have to subjugate themselves to crime just to keep it black? and if someone did want to stunt, have a nice car, buy nice things for his/her home. they shouldn't have to worry about their community meaning to do them harm.

like i said, y'all always examine one side and ignore the other. that racial unity sound all well and good until some degenerate criminals try to take from you.

it seems like ur doing the same thing your saying everyone else does, examing one side and ignoring the other.

Before integration went into effect the communities in our neighborhoods had people from all walks of life in them.....and the neighborhoods and communities were the better because of it.

The block we used to hang out on was in an area of the city that would be generalized as the hood to most outsiders. There were a few professional people that lived on it. They had nice homes, nice possesions and their kids went to private schools. nikkas wasnt climbing in their windows at the first sight of them not being home. On the contrary, we knew some of them, spoke to them and had decent relationships with them and their kids. They provided a diversity to the neighborhood. They were a resource that we could go to directly if we had questions on something in their line of work. Seeing them gave us perspective of the lifestyle that type of industry/life provided......

These types of environments arent around like that anymore. A major reason they arent is because all the professional types are abandoning their city homes and moving out to the county. I ride through the city and it looks like one big shythole. The neighborhoods are being stripped of their diversity, culture and decency and the only thing being left behind is the nikkas.

When i say move into communties im not saying to move into a warzone and set up shop. What im saying is, there are alot of neighborhoods in these communities that are not shytholes, move there and be that diversity.

its not a hard concept to get but most people will wait for someone else to do it first because they are too coward, complacent, scared, etc., to step out there themselves

 

[Marciano]

They already are, I know of them in DC. The issue is simple, getting in their crew.

Exactly....and I'm slowing making my way in

 

[jilla82]

you ever seen a tea party rally?

think farther than that.
First off...fiscal republicans dont ride for the Tea Party...and the ones that do are just using them for votes.

Some of you need to get out of that black bubble youre in. You think you know how the world works, but you have no idea.
I got buddies whose families have island buying money. They are all different (rich people) and hold themselves different...but they all look down on all broke no motivation types brah

 

[MeachTheMonster]

think farther than that.
First off...fiscal republicans dont ride for the Tea Party...and the ones that do are just using them for votes.

Some of you need to get out of that black bubble youre in. You think you know how the world works, but you have no idea.
I got buddies whose families have island buying money. They are all different (rich people) and hold themselves different...but they all look down on all broke no motivation types brah

Doesn't matter who you know. White people stand together regardless of economic background. They set a goal they stand together and they go get it. Black folks spend all their time arguing amongst one another and putting each other down.

Do they frown upon "broke no motivation types" yes. Do they think all broke white people are stupid and lazy with no motivation. No. and they damn sure wouldn't get on tv and say it. They get on tv and blame all of Americas problems on black people. They attribute all the negative things about American culture to black people. Thy tell you that black people are poor because they are stupid and lazy. And you believe it and turn your nose up at those stupid and lazy black folks.

Like i said history got black people minds all fukked up. The thread is titled "should successful black people help out more" and we get nothing black people running in talking about " naw black people ain't shyt"
Dont you think that's a problem? Do you think this thread would have gone the same way if it was posted on a predominantly white website? I dont think so.

 

[marcuz]

Doesn't matter who you know. White people stand together regardless of economic background. They set a goal they stand together and they go get it. Black folks spend all their time arguing amongst one another and putting each other down.

Do they frown upon "broke no motivation types" yes. Do they think all broke white people are stupid and lazy with no motivation. No. and they damn sure wouldn't get on tv and say it. They get on tv and blame all of Americas problems on black people. They attribute all the negative things about American culture to black people. Thy tell you that black people are poor because they are stupid and lazy. And you believe it and turn your nose up at those stupid and lazy black folks.

Like i said history got black people minds all fukked up. The thread is titled "should successful black people help out more" and we get nothing black people running in talking about " naw black people ain't shyt"
Dont you think that's a problem? Do you think this thread would have gone the same way if it was posted on a predominantly white website? I dont think so.

there's 250m white people in US and you think they're all united

they have their own beefs. rich vs poor, liberal vs conservative, atheist vs religious, racist vs the "race traitors" who date outside their race. come on now, bruh.

 

[jilla82]

there's 250m white people in US and you think they're all united

they have their own beefs. rich vs poor, liberal vs conservative, atheist vs religious, racist vs the "race traitors" who date outside their race. come on now, bruh.

haha...for real, its almost scary how far off some people are.
Like there is some united White front

how do you make stuff up like that in your mind?

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

They get the same social services available to poor Americans plus they get other loans, grants, ect only available to immigrants. No they are not rolling out the red carpet. Poor black people are usualy coming from a very bad place, socially, mentally, and emotionally.



Again if they can pay for college they have more resources than the average black American. If they cannot pay for college there are plenty of loans/grants that will help them. There are countless kids that go to American high schools then make it to college and spend two years taking remedial college courses because their high schools were shytty. Black people regardless of where they come from are ineligible for jobs due to their skin color. Did you know that Nigerians are some of the most educated immigrants, yet they are also some of the least employed?

Immigrants get loans,grants and social services when they come here?
you're talking bout refugees or something?

Nigerians are the least employed??




DUDE..U DONT KNOW WHAT THE fukk YOU'RE TALKING BOUT

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS FACING THE BLACK COMMUNITY

A BUNCHA CLUELESS IDIOTS SPEAKING ON THINGS THEY DONT KNOW JACK BOUT

 

[Malik]

It would be great if black people revisited this whole "talented tenth" idea. Not the elitist, bourgeois, pretentious, dikk up the ass, I'm not like you other nikkas Jack-N-Jill/Boule crowd. But real nikkas doing real things



Maybe for our generation....its just black men building the foundation, starting small businesses & firms, getting good jobs, scrapping to get things back on track. It would probably be a good idea for us to start buying property & getting foreign business owners out of our communities. Working a 9-5 is cool but, our development as a community wont come from whites giving us a leg up. You need to own shyt. Maybe only 20% of us men make it out of the cycle & the rest end up Its real out here



You focus on raising your kids right, he'll focus on raising his right, and when they're of age, we'll be old heads and hopefully we built the foundation enough to open some doors for them. More lawyers, engineers, cardiologists/surgeons & hedge fund managers/investment bankers instead of rappers & athletes. fukk your basketball dreams, you going to Stanford We built the foundation, maybe our kids can take it further. Really start getting this long paper



Then our grandchildren might actually have a shot at accumulating some wealth Maybe the previous generation would now have valuable property to hand down to their kids to jumpstart their lives, maybe they could invest $50,000 in their child's business like Jews/Whites be doing now. Just a large community of black elders in general who're calling shots and can give them opportunities. Barack Obama is nice but, I want some Black Henry Kravises, Larry Pages & Riley Bechtels