Should I max my 401K contributions?

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I got 1,300 in my account bc i left the job before i was vested :snoop:

i hated the job though :russ:

so, should i roll that into my new 401K?

Or cash out and pay debt?
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My thing is what if the dollar tanks then your 401k is going to be worthless. Also if you die before you retire will the money be left to your children or what happens then? I used to have a 401k then times got hard and I withdrew it. Now I have 0 In it but I am pretty good with managing my money.
 

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My thing is what if the dollar tanks then your 401k is going to be worthless. Also if you die before you retire will the money be left to your children or what happens then? I used to have a 401k then times got hard and I withdrew it. Now I have 0 In it but I am pretty good with managing my money.

what were the penalties. im bout to chas my shyt out

i dont plan on living until 60 anyways
 
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So it's only "double taxed" if you don't follow the rules which you know beforehand...it's a RETIREMENT account. :beli:

Yeah, its a retirement account in title perse, but at the end of the day its your money and it takes an act of congress to get access to your 401k money before said age of 59.5 and that is a bunch of BS
 
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I got 1,300 in my account bc i left the job before i was vested :snoop:

i hated the job though :russ:

so, should i roll that into my new 401K?

Or cash out and pay debt?
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Contributing top dollar to your 401k while still in debt(mortgage, student loan excluded) is hustling backwards if you ask me
 
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Contributing top dollar to your 401k while still in debt(mortgage, student loan excluded) is hustling backwards if you ask me

yeah man that $1300 can knock off my credit card debt

i got $950 in debt. they will prolly take 200-300 as penalty fees though


im bout to just do it now :leon:
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yeah man that $1300 can knock off my credit card debt

i got $950 in debt. they will prolly take 200-300 as penalty fees though


im bout to just do it now :leon:
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I look at net worth. Even if you kept your 1300 in your 401k, your credit card debt cancels it out....

This way, your net worth still may be nill, but you are no longer in debt. Also, you could probably save 1300 dollars faster than it was accrued via your 401k.
 
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:dead: at the awful financial advice in this thread. Lemme do what I can to mitigate the damage...

It's taxed when you pull it out plus you have to pay a penalty should you want YOUR money before you're 70 or whatever.

I plan on owning stocks, bonds, commodities, and rental property.

It's a retirement account, breh. You don't put money in there that you're going to need sooner rather than later. That's investing 101. Stocks, bonds, commodities and rental property are all double-taxed (but double-taxed in a real way). First you pay the tax on the income you use to purchase those assets, then you pay tax on the gains. There's no way around paying taxes, it's funny that dudes point to 401(k) as a tax scam somehow, but in reality that money is GROWING tax free for 30 years. That sounds fukking great to me, but do you.

You could be investing that money into assets that yield monthly income. Instead, it's sitting in two financial instruments that cause it to LOSE VALUE the longer it sits in there. I plan on buying storage units to get started.

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Dat lost value!!!

Suddenly, you're in need of cash. Where's that money going to come from? Thin air? No. It's going to come from that sh!tty 401k.

Again, why would I pull money out of a retirement account? Maybe YOU would do that, but I sure wouldn't unless it was life-or-death, and even in *that* scenario, isn't it better to have that 401(k) to draw from rather than not?

I'm sure a lot of people said the same thing in 2006, then 2007/8 happened.

And that impacted ONLY 401(k) accounts, or did that impact anybody with any type of investment account like the stocks and bonds you mentioned above?

My thing is what if the dollar tanks then your 401k is going to be worthless. Also if you die before you retire will the money be left to your children or what happens then?

If the dollar tanks, you're gonna have bigger problems than what happened to your 401(k). And yes you name a beneficiary to receive the benefits of your account if you die before you withdraw it.

Contributing top dollar to your 401k while still in debt(mortgage, student loan excluded) is hustling backwards if you ask me

Negative. Pay yourself FIRST. Gotta get started on that "time value of money" wealth.
 

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Say your goal is to invest 15% of your income. 15% with no debt payments is better than 15% plus debt payments from a day to day living perspective, imo.
 

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Say your goal is to invest 15% of your income. 15% with no debt payments is better than 15% plus debt payments from a day to day living perspective, imo.

Day to day, absolutely, but once you you factor in the time-value of money, the big-picture becomes clear. Pay yourself first, breh. If you can, refinance your debts to today's ridiculous rates (I just refi-d my car note to 1.95%). That'll cut your total interest payments SIGNIFICANTLY.
 

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Day to day, absolutely, but once you you factor in the time-value of money, the big-picture becomes clear. Pay yourself first, breh. If you can, refinance your debts to today's ridiculous rates (I just refi-d my car note to 1.95%). That'll cut your total interest payments SIGNIFICANTLY.

I pay myself first by paying down my debts. Not saying that your method is "wrong" but that is pesonally what works for me. From a person that's been out of work for several months with no emergency fund in place and getting paid that joke called unemployment, it would have been a lot easier to come up with basic living expenses vs living expenses PLUS minimum debt payments every month. Add in Cobra and shyt got real.
 

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I pay myself first by paying down my debts. Not saying that your method is "wrong" but that is pesonally what works for me. From a person that's been out of work for several months with no emergency fund in place and getting paid that joke called unemployment, it would have been a lot easier to come up with basic living expenses vs living expenses PLUS minimum debt payments every month. Add in Cobra and shyt got real.

I hear that.
 

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yeah man that $1300 can knock off my credit card debt

i got $950 in debt. they will prolly take 200-300 as penalty fees though


im bout to just do it now :leon:
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I dunno breh just as a rule I wouldn't do it unless you're looking at some crazy interest rate on your CC.
 
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