Should Men Be Allowed "Legal Abortion"?

[MeachTheMonster]

No, a lot of women don't go with abortion for the reasons this law eliminates.

Average child support payment is $300. A lot of times that money is never paid. And that's without even talking about the millions of women who never went to court.

It's asinine to believe that women are choosing to have babies over abortions just to receive child support.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

That isn't fair. When we find a way to make it easier for men who want custody of their children, as the courts overwhelmingly favor women, then we can talk about
forced vasectomies.

Why not force tube-tying if a lady has multiple kids but never a father in the home. (see how dangerous that emotional logic becomes?)

What isn't fair & to whom it is unfair to is the innocent kids that did not ask to be here. Period.

So, In looking to find a solution/remedy - A solution that holds two adults accountable for their choices. One that is devoid of gender battles, witch-hunts, & all that ilk.
There are so many variables, so, strictly addressing the scenario in the OP - If the woman will be sole custodian/caregiver/mother and father then why does she need to abort (murder) or have tubal ligations (rendering her barren)?
What happens to the man? What are his repercussions? Or are you saying that she be held responsible for him too while he struts off with his sac hangin' & swangin'?

 

[BaldingSoHard]

But will a lot of BM want families if they feel they are not wanted or needed in one?

I can't see the type of man who wants a family being influenced by such nonsense as to think that he's not needed. That literally doesn't make sense in the context of wanting a family.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

This would decrease deadbeats IMO.



The woman isn't paying so why would she care?

Don't be a (bigger) ass.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Conservatives will never go for it.
Abortions will increase and they will trend toward later in the pregnancy.

Abortions can't increase if they are illegal :scumbag:

Which will make for more broken families and stories to play into the Conservative Protestant shaming campaign.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

In fact, ANY medical complications via abortion would be paid by the man including an unlikely funeral.

What if he can't afford it? Who fronts the bill?

 

[CinnaSlim]

But whether she has an abortion or has the baby the woman has to make a decision to go through with a tough medical experience....A morning after pill aint really all that dangerous is it?

No the morning after pill isn't dangerous (to my knowledge). What does that have to do with what we're talking about?

Morning after pill only works for the first 72 hours and only if you havent ovulated yet.

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

at all the men in here jumping for joy

The only time this should be acceptable is in extreme cases like the woman trying to trap a man, lying about birth control...

Other than that take care of your responsibilities theres a kid out in this world that didnt ask to be here

 

[At30wecashout]

I think more men than not don't act up b/c of the consequences. Takes those consequences away and you have a different man.

I don't know, I would have a bit more faith. We all have varying perspectives for different reasons. My father was absent, so I don't need laws to tell me that running out on my kids
is not a good look. I know how I felt, and I saw how my mom felt. Laws don't deter folks who didn't give a fukk from pushing the line, and many men step up without even knowing
the full extent of their rights. They do it out of a sense of duty. I doubt that without an incentive, and I mean a real one...not just opting out of responsibility, many men won't
be ok abandoning their child suddenly.

Then again, the term "Cheaper to keep her" has some merit, so you might be right

 

[Still Benefited]

Yeah, but abortion is not birth control. It is a last resort. We need better sex education and free birth control nationwide.

My fear is that that will happen and many women will be affected by multiple abortions.

I agree,I think we got enough education once you are an adult,but they need to keep it more real about the harsh financial realities and drama....Which they don't really do in sex ed,they tell you how horrible std's are....They need to start showing pictures of horrible baby mothers and fathers throughout history,show women pictures of all the men who have multiple baby mamas that have never paid child support that's in the court system,show the young men their mug shots and paystubs and ask them "Do you want this to be your future"

Men should just have to pay a extra tax to make sure women can get birth control,condoms,morning after pills and whatever they need to be responsible.

The biggest problem with this law is the fact that many of the women you would want this law in place for?They wouldn't really know who the babys father is anyway

You would have nikkas signing paperwork to sign they rights away who aint even the daddy,Then what happens to the real father once the bavby is out,the courts gon tell em,Well sir you only had six months to sign those rights away

 

[Beck.er.]

reminder to those reading that Sweden has amazing social services, a guaranteed safety net.[a tax rate of 55%]
those children wont be homeless or starving.

here in America these now legally fatherless children wont have any safety net.

this is a good discussion, but it will never happen here.

Yeah our outcome would be more third world.
We aren't comparable to their situation at all.

 

[Wild self]

I clearly said men that get women pregnant on purpose you know like poke holes in condoms or take the comdom off.

What kind of man intentionally tries to have kids OoW?

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

It won't. Women won't let this fly. Neither will politicians who are voted in by them.

This would also make women more selective of who they let raw dog 'em

Or they would turn into lesbos.

 

[Poitier]

What if he can't afford it? Who fronts the bill?

Then he can't opt out via this law

 

[At30wecashout]

at all the men in here jumping for joy

The only time this should be acceptable is in extreme cases like the woman trying to trap a man, lying about birth control...

Other than that take care of your responsibilities theres a kid out in this world that didnt ask to be here

How does one prove that a woman was trying to "trap a man"? Unless she leaves a paper trail? Even then, couldn't it be argued she was just talking shyt?

Or lying about Birth Control. It could be argued she forgot.

This is one of those cases where you can't judge by intent, cause its literally fraught with biases and false-positives. Either we go all the way, or we don't do it at all.