Should Men Be Allowed "Legal Abortion"?

[wickedsm]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a tax was put in place on all single men in tandem with this law?

Then, not only would yall get vastly less p*ssy, you'd be financing the guys who are getting p*ssy making babies and signing and walking away to get some more new p*ssy .

That "equality" would feel great I'm sure

 

[Neil Tyson]

There should also be mandatory dna testing before the father is made to sign the certificate.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Seems fair to me

 

[wickedsm]

There should also be mandatory dna testing before the father is made to sign the certificate.

i support that. its funny that its brought up in this thread where people are championing the idea of signing away all rights to a child who hasnt been determined to be theirs biologically yet.

theres no law forcing any of you to sign a bc without a dna test though [unless youre married and are automatically considered the legal father]
if you sign without test in hand, thats on you sadly
i advise all single men to say from the start that they will want a dna test so its not a suprise in between pushes.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I actually think something like this would lessen the amount of dead beat dads. It's a lot easier to support your kids financially when it's not being done through what's essentially a mild form of extortion.

 

[wickedsm]

I actually think something like this would lessen the amount of dead beat dads. It's a lot easier to support your kids financially when it's not being done through what's essentially a mild form of extortion.

so your opinion is that men who have completely signed away any connection to their children will suddenly voluntarilly support those same children without any court intervention since theyre not "being extorted"?

 

[Ski Mask]

It's funny seeing pro-choicers using pro-life/abstinence arguments when it comes to men being able to opt out.


EDIT: even though I agree with it, I do feel like there should be a restrictions or some sort of 3 strike penalty to keep men from abusing it.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

so your opinion is that men who have completely signed away any connection to their children will suddenly voluntarilly support those same children without any court intervention since theyre not "being extorted"?

I think most men don't want to sign away a connection to their children, just sign away the right for the government to force money out of them with the threat of jail or a life of financial servitude to these mothers. The reason why this is being proposed in the first place is because the system is flawed.

 

[Easy-E]

I feel like once this will be legal, it will eventually ripple over to the US. Just wondering how long it will take since the US is so conservative. Or will Conservatives be more willing to allow this than allowing women access to abortions.

They don't even want real abortion. Of course they ain't going to dudes being legal "deadbeats"

 

[wickedsm]

I think most men don't want to sign away a connection to their children, just sign away the right for the government to force money out of them with the threat of jail or a life of financial servitude to these mothers. The reason why this is being proposed in the first place is because the system is flawed.

no. thats not how it works.
if you sign away your rights you have NO rights to be in your childs life. None.
what makes you think that most or even many women would go along with that???



do you really see what youre saying?

if i give my child up for adoption by signing away my parental rights i dont get to call the adoptive parents up and say hey -thats still my kid. i want to see and be involved with him and i will send you a little money now and then,
but i dont want to be in a position where the courts "force" me to do anything i dont want to.

i cant call the bank up today and tell them i want to keep living here in my house but i dont want to be bogged down by this legal contract that is a mortgage. i will just send them some money now and again that i think is fair.

 

[Osmosis]

Only way I'd be in favor of this is if the man is obligated to pay the abortion

 

[Elle Driver]

They already have pills that do that,theres nothing taxing about taking a tiny pill everyday is there? Women have more viable options before and after sex,and less risk,but apparently you don't believe that may be an issue at all,and you think THIS law will be the one that causes women to be reckless....Women and men cant get no more reckless than they already are so lets switch things up,lets treat both parties like adult offenders,instead of treating one like a juvenile,and see if that side continues to be reckless....Also while throwing in the option for men to be upfront and be responsible.

This law completely makes everybody responsible because it would force people to think about this shyt before they have sex....You comparing pregnancy to a casino is part of the problem,but completely accurate in how women,but especially men think about sex...."Sure I could lose all my money,but i'm feeling lucky"....But do you think if before walking into a casino there was a paper people could sign, saying that even if you lose all ya money, you will get it back at the end night....How many gamblers do you think would stop and make sure that's done before entering?Before you answer keep in mind its established nobodys going to stop gambling on either side,men or women.

There really is no argument when it comes to this paper being signed before sex.

Those BC pills are actually a risk, it puts a woman in danger. It's known to cause cancer, cardiac arrest, cysts, and even infertility.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

no. thats not how it works.
if you sign away your rights you have NO rights to be in your childs life. None.
what makes you think that most or even many women would go along with that???



do you really see what youre saying?

if i give my child up for adoption by signing away my parental rights i dont get to call the adoptive parents up and say hey -thats still my kid. i want to see and be involved with him and i will send you a little money now and then,
but i dont want to be in a position where the courts "force" me to do anything i dont want to.

i cant call the bank up today andtell them i want to keep living here in my house but i dont want to be bogged down by this legal contract that is a mortgage. i will just send them some money now and again that i think is fair.

No woman is going to turn down a check, period. And after that child turns 18 she can't keep he/she from wanting to establish a relationship with the father.

Look, dead beat dads do exist, but the child support system is being used too often to prop up the lifestyle of the mother rather than provide for the child. If the system were more reasonable this type of measure wouldn't be necessary in the first place.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Look, dead beat dads do exist, but the child support system is being used too often to prop up the lifestyle of the mother rather than provide for the child. If the system were more reasonable this type of measure wouldn't be necessary in the first place.

This is not true at all. Average child support payment is 300-500$ and in about 50% of cases that amount isn't even being paid in full.

For the majority of single parents, child support is not propping up much of anything.

 

[wickedsm]

No woman is going to turn down a check, period. And after that child turns 18 she can't keep he/she from wanting to establish a relationship with the father.

Look, dead beat dads do exist, but the child support system is being used too often to prop up the lifestyle of the mother rather than provide for the child. If the system were more reasonable this type of measure wouldn't be necessary in the first place.

first of all i dont believe that the majority of dudes who would actually sign away their parental rights are just gonna be FOTY all of a sudden and support their child simply out of the goodness of their heart.
but here you go..

sure right. supposedly give checks and think the woman has to do anything for you in regards to that other than just cash your check.
you have NO rights. you cant even complain when the woman takes your check and does anything she wants with it.
she could do her hair and nails, she could spend it on her new man

matter of fact her new man is free to legally adopt your child.
change "your baby's" name to his

on top of that
she doesnt ever have to allow or encourage any type of relationship for you with your child.
you know why? legally youre not the childs parent.

god forbid the mother is abusive or jailed or drug dependent.
you cant get custody and you wont even be considered for custody
because legally you are not that childs parent.

and no a judge is not gonna give a single fukk that your biologically related to this child you completely signed away all of your legal rights to.

try to establish a great relationship with an adult child at 18 with all your stories that sure you love them, you just completely signed away and legal right to them at all because you didnt want to have to pay via court order.

if this aint the most have your cake and eat it too bullshyt i have ever heard in my life.

wanna sign away rights but then get to do all the fun daddy shyt and whatever else you want including pay whatever you want when you want.