Should Men Be Allowed "Legal Abortion"?

[AllHolosEve]

On a biological level, it is in the child's best interest to be with the mother early in life.
I'm not sure about your individual circumstances, but most men who apply for joint custody are granted it. Even though you may be the "better" parent it doesn't mean you should have more of a right to the child. It should be equal unless her parenting is a danger to him.

Breh I supported my BM & my kids for over a decade, still do, oldest goin on 18... That "biological level" is bullshyt to a good father, it wasnt in my kids interest.... I taught them education, family, protection, imagination... She mostly abandoned them for years & only filed for custody cause they ordered her to pay me child support...

By "Better Parent" I mean I took care of them, worked, raised them, etc... Imagine havin your kids the whole time & you gotta prove she had them in danger or lose custody... Its impossible to prove they were in physical danger when she never really fukkin had them... Its good though, my kids know... fukk that.. I shoulda had more rights, I did everything & for them to tell me "Its a womans state" in court I felt some kinda way..

 

[KnowDatImReal]

this is a nice idea

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Breh I supported my BM & my kids for over a decade, still do, oldest goin on 18... That "biological level" is bullshyt to a good father, it wasnt in my kids interest.... I taught them education, family, protection, imagination... She mostly abandoned them for years & only filed for custody cause they ordered her to pay me child support...

By "Better Parent" I mean I took care of them, worked, raised them, etc... Imagine havin your kids the whole time & you gotta prove she had them in danger or lose custody... Its impossible to prove they were in physical danger when she never really fukkin had them... Its good though, my kids know... fukk that.. I shoulda had more rights, I did everything & for them to tell me "Its a womans state" in court I felt some kinda way..

What I meant by biologically. It's a proven fact that an infant needs to spend time feeding and bonding with mom, for health/I.Q./development reasons.

And I understand your frustration. But if the tables were turned you'd still feel like you had a right to your kids even if you weren't the "good parent".

 

[wickedsm]

Breh I supported my BM & my kids for over a decade, still do, oldest goin on 18... That "biological level" is bullshyt to a good father, it wasnt in my kids interest.... I taught them education, family, protection, imagination... She mostly abandoned them for years & only filed for custody cause they ordered her to pay me child support...

By "Better Parent" I mean I took care of them, worked, raised them, etc... Imagine havin your kids the whole time & you gotta prove she had them in danger or lose custody... Its impossible to prove they were in physical danger when she never really fukkin had them... Its good though, my kids know... fukk that.. I shoulda had more rights, I did everything & for them to tell me "Its a womans state" in court I felt some kinda way..

I'm sorry that happened to you, fortunately (most) courts are moving away from the rubber stamping just give them to the mother now.
We are seeing more dad's prevail in getting full physical and shared/joint custody is becoming absolutely more common.
Your kids know you were the better parent and they will tell their own children that one day.

 

[A1aaa]

this is a perfectly rational law, which maximizes the right of CHOICE for all parties involved.

a woman can still have a child if she desires.

a man is not legally or financially burdened by an option he doesn't desire.

its actually laughable that this hasn't been implemented globally

 

[AllHolosEve]

What I meant by biologically. It's a proven fact that an infant needs to spend time feeding and bonding with mom, for health/I.Q./development reasons.
And I understand your frustration. But if the tables were turned you'd still feel like you had a right to your kids even if you weren't the "good parent".

As a father I prove thats not fact in all cases.. Aside from hereditary shyt, good health.. Suggested for advanced classes, Wall full of field day ribbons, etc... IQ & development on point...
Their mom didnt breast feed.. Bonding didnt hold... I had my dining room decorated with their artwork & my buffet had their sculptures (proud), she took the shyt down "cleaning up".. They aint forgot... Infants dont "NEED" their mom any more than their dad... Harsh as it sounds their lives were better growing up when she wasnt there...

Shes fukked up since she got custody... Id never use the law & Im the "good" parent cause Im there... Just think some form of this needs to be done...

I'm sorry that happened to you, fortunately (most) courts are moving away from the rubber stamping just give them to the mother now.
We are seeing more dad's prevail in getting full physical and shared/joint custody is becoming absolutely more common.
Your kids know you were the better parent and they will tell their own children that one day.

If I had that attorney money, probably be different... I got joint custody she got physical & seeing them cry cause they had to leave home fukked me up... My kids been known whats up... I actually TRY not to downtalk their mom & tell them to respect her, but sometimes they "She trippin"..

 

[wickedsm]

As a father I prove thats not fact in all cases.. Aside from hereditary shyt, good health.. Suggested for advanced classes, Wall full of field day ribbons, etc... IQ & development on point...
Their mom didnt breast feed.. Bonding didnt hold... I had my dining room decorated with their artwork & my buffet had their sculptures (proud), she took the shyt down "cleaning up".. They aint forgot... Infants dont "NEED" their mom any more than their dad... Harsh as it sounds their lives were better growing up when she wasnt there...

Shes fukked up since she got custody... Id never use the law & Im the "good" parent cause Im there... Just think some form of this needs to be done...

If I had that attorney money, probably be different... I got joint custody she got physical & seeing them cry cause they had to leave home fukked me up... My kids been known whats up... I actually TRY not to downtalk their mom & tell them to respect her, but sometimes they "She trippin"..

Yup. Family court can be absolutely fukking ridiculous in attorneys fees.
You got joint even in a pro woman environment so I'm sure if you had a really good attorney you would have gotten much more.

I know you have and will continue to be there for your children. They know and see both of yall and what went/ is going on.

Trust me they gonna tell you and speak on it more as they get older.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

As a father I prove thats not fact in all cases.. Aside from hereditary shyt, good health.. Suggested for advanced classes, Wall full of field day ribbons, etc... IQ & development on point...
Their mom didnt breast feed.. Bonding didnt hold... I had my dining room decorated with their artwork & my buffet had their sculptures (proud), she took the shyt down "cleaning up".. They aint forgot... Infants dont "NEED" their mom any more than their dad... Harsh as it sounds their lives were better growing up when she wasnt there...

Shes fukked up since she got custody... Id never use the law & Im the "good" parent cause Im there... Just think some form of this needs to be done...

If I had that attorney money, probably be different... I got joint custody she got physical & seeing them cry cause they had to leave home fukked me up... My kids been known whats up... I actually TRY not to downtalk their mom & tell them to respect her, but sometimes they "She trippin"..

Good luck to you and the kids man you sound like a great father.

Once they get older they can request to live with you.

 

[yyy]

Cheer the final death knell in the black family brehs. I get it, sex with the possibility of no unwanted responsibilities is what every man dreams of. But I really have to question if the people cheering for this proposal are thinking only with their dikks or if they are also thinking about what's best for our race as a whole.

 

[AllHolosEve]

Yup. Family court can be absolutely fukking ridiculous in attorneys fees.
You got joint even in a pro woman environment so I'm sure if you had a really good attorney you would have gotten much more.

I know you have and will continue to be there for your children. They know and see both of yall and what went/ is going on.

Trust me they gonna tell you and speak on it more as they get older.

My oldest goin on 18, my daughter goin on 16... They speak on it... They go in... Told me she always out there lying about me..

My daughter on point calculating my check though, LOL... Ima be there & they know it...

Good luck to you and the kids man you sound like a great father.
Once they get older they can request to live with you.

Thanks breh, wasnt attacking you or nothing.. Just saying my side... My kids are my life, every dude dont live that...

 

[wickedsm]

My oldest goin on 18, my daughter goin on 16... They speak on it... They go in... Told me she always out there lying about me..

My daughter on point calculating my check though, LOL... Ima be there & they know it...

Thanks breh, wasnt attacking you or nothing.. Just saying my side... My kids are my life, every dude dont live that...

I'm glad that you came in and posted your story. I specifically want family court reform for dad's like you and @MeachTheMonster and my husband,
Men that love and take care of their children like they should, that even after dealing with all that shyt, wouldn't voluntarily sign away their rights to their children for the world.


So the baby is 16? You on that countdown to no more cs. We are almost done here too.

 

[richaveli83]

no. thats not how it works.
if you sign away your rights you have NO rights to be in your childs life. None.
what makes you think that most or even many women would go along with that???



do you really see what youre saying?

if i give my child up for adoption by signing away my parental rights i dont get to call the adoptive parents up and say hey -thats still my kid. i want to see and be involved with him and i will send you a little money now and then,
but i dont want to be in a position where the courts "force" me to do anything i dont want to.

i cant call the bank up today and tell them i want to keep living here in my house but i dont want to be bogged down by this legal contract that is a mortgage. i will just send them some money now and again that i think is fair.

 

[cam>]

it'll never happen in the US.

taxpayers don't want to financially support other people's children

 

[BruhManFromTheFifthFlo]

True. I can just see men using this as a get out of jail free card. Those men "worth being pursued" don't need to be cautious anymore. They can fukk anyone and run. A woman can only create one (usually) child at a time. Men on the other hand who are already inclined to "sow their oats" can impregnate limitless women. If their is no consequence for action what would be the motivation not to do it. Again, I am not taking about the bums who are doing it anyway. I am talking about the ones who are more responsible currently. What's now the motivation to be responsible?

Late AF, but I'm here



You sure are making women seem like dumb fukk-holes that can't think for themselves


It's a women's job to screen a man she lets lay with her. If she's dumb enough to let some nikka fukk her raw without properly screening if he'd be a good parent then that's on her. Besides, she could always just get an abortion. If she chooses not to then its all her fault what happens after

 

[A1aaa]

it'll never happen in the US.

taxpayers don't want to financially support other people's children

this already occurs