Should Rick Carlisle have been on that Top 15 GOAT Coaches list?

[Street Knowledge]

He took the championship spurs 2014 team to 7 games

Jose Calderon
Monte ellis
Sam dalembert
Shawn Marion
Dirk


^^ that was the starting lineup lmao

Now Sam dalembert, that’s a name I haven’t heard in ages

 

[Don Homer]

Rivers outta there. Carlisle beat him 2x and doc is a habitual underachiever

 

[Bigwhite2498]

I guess the problem with this is, how much is it to do with what Pat created? It's not like Spo came in and started his own thing, he came in and continued something that was already established. And it must be taken into account that making the playoffs in the East is a considerably easier task than making it in the West.

He came into the league as a HC with a silver spoon in his mouth.

All those players that the Heat scouted/developed across his tenure have had very little to do with him.

So did Kerr, so did pop, so did Phil, so did Pat.

 

[NormanConnors]

Sloan and Kerr

Everybody saying Sloan, but why not Nellie? Multiple players have gone on record saying that while he was cool AF, he would dial it in sometimes. After the Warriors beat the Mavs in that series, he stopped caring because that was his championship lol

Nelly was the precursor to a lot of the shyt we see now

 

[Po pimp]

So did Kerr, so did pop, so did Phil, so did Pat.

Technically, Pop didn’t. He had Robinson, but he was out for most of the season. There was no guarantee the Spurs would get Duncan. I remember people thinking the Celtics would win the lottery.

 

[feelosofer]

How long ago was that list made? I would add Rick Carlisle and Eric Spoelstra and boot Sloan and Rivers

 

[RhodyRum]

He needs to be on a list of top 15 coaches who look like they just got out of heavy duty chemotherapy not even a month ago.

Dude constantly looks like he's got perpetually fighting cancer with a side helping of kidney failure.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Technically, Pop didn’t. He had Robinson, but he was out for most of the season. There was no guarantee the Spurs would get Duncan. I remember people thinking the Celtics would win the lottery.

I mean having David is still better than the vast majority coaches

 

[number21]

Not one mention of Doc?

 

[Remote]

I mean let’s be honest- Pat Riley is grossly overrated as a GM- he relies on cheap or old and desperate signings supercharged by a great coach and elite superstar player- not bad- but he’s not some grand architect- the majority of the players he drafts or sign flame out of the league quickly once they leave Miami- the development end is all Spo- he brings the best out of players with his system- man had a PG rotation of Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole and went to 4 straight Finals- Chris Andersen Udonis Haslem and Joel Anthony were the froncourt assistance for Bosh- they had Shane Battier playing the 4- you can say Pat’s strict regime sets the foundation but it literally means nothing without Spo- you either have it or you don’t-

And come on now you of all people know Bron is a gross underachiever who gets in his own way cause he refuses to operate in a real team system - having peak LeBron is a plus due to his raw talent but you’re constantly going to be taken to the limit against teams you shouldn’t due to the inherently selfish nature of his play

If you wanna say Spo is overrated- fine- but giving all the credit to Pat is wild because he’s just as overrated if not more as a GM than Spo is as a coach- just look at that 2023 roster and tell me who deserves more credit

Goodness
If Pat Riley is overrated, I need to know who all these guys are that you would rather have as GM over him.