RammerJammer
#RollTide #TSC #RiseUp #BullsNation #RIPKobe
Dude seem to been fukked up booking wise ever since 
Should Ryback have beaten Punk @ HIAC '12?
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AquaCityBoy
Veteran
No. 
Capo Dei Capi
Fukk a studio thug, I'm a skinny jeans bigot
Him and Sandow should be in the main event picture right now.
RammerJammer
#RollTide #TSC #RiseUp #BullsNation #RIPKobe
No.
I mean I'm a Punk stan lol but some people do think the Ryback should've went over
61 Corpses
The Breh
Yes, it killed his momentum
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
no
but HE SHOULD'VE beaten Cena as a heel, especially in the ambulance match...unreal cena couldn't take a pinfall or EVEN a stipulation loss during that fued
but HE SHOULD'VE beaten Cena as a heel, especially in the ambulance match...unreal cena couldn't take a pinfall or EVEN a stipulation loss during that fued
He was supposed to, but Rock wanted the W over Punk 
This.
It was too much, too soon... of course it was a last minute replacement deal anyway, but it booked him into a corner. the plan was clearly to have Punk hold on to the title to the Rumble and meet Rock (as had been set up with the heel turn in July). So either they break Punk's reign and have Ryback win, then they gotta have him drop it back to Punk anyway before RR... or Punk goes over and Ryback has his WHOLE 5 MONTHS of build deflated. They could've dropped someone else into that spot- Orton would've been a good option. Ryback should've been kept on the lower card- if I'm not mistaken, they had him about to go over Miz and win the IC title. I don't think that one loss at HIAC completely ruined Ryback (they DID do a screwjob finish and still had him fukk Punk up to close the show)... but it started him in a pattern they never got him out of. They keep him in the Cena/Punk feud the next month, he gets the first of many Shield asswhoopin's in their debut
. Then he ends up in a feud with the Shield, who course can't take Ls soon as they debut, so he gets beat by them repeatedly... takes Ls to Henry, who they were building for a Cena feud... turns heel against Cena, which again puts him behind the 8ball cause there was no plan to have Ryback be champion, so he's still takin' Ls. It was just months of Ls one after the other. Then it turns out he's a lame-ass heel that not even Paul Heyman can get people to give a shyt about... eh, shyt just went all wrong.It could've been fixed simply by getting him away from the main event shyt ASAP. This was one example of WWE "listening to the crowd" and going waaaay too far with it.
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
the correct booking was for brock to interfere and rip the cage door off.
leading to ryback in the chase after brock.
which could have been used to elevate the world heavyweight title belt, or big gold.
back into the same sentiment as the wwe title.
where they would have never had to ruin taker's streak.
plus, would have never had to unify the title.
which created a horrific logjam of talent and no viable plausible booking avenues for the talent on the roster.
just complete pisspoor booking and the point in time.
you can point to the wwe not knowing what to do.
plus, being scared to create new stars that were not using the clique past members blueprint.
which would have created the spreadsheet authenication.
for them to use other types of drawing models for their own grassroots based draws/grapplers.
they did not use the goldberg template.
as they are set on trying to bury the legacy of wcw.
when, it is proven they have ruined their draw, and self sabotaged their own boom.
by not incorporating, and effectively using their own acquisitions.
while, being scared of their own acquisitions drawing power that they own and should have no fear in using to create an even larger boom.
than, what was present when, they buried wcw and ecw and the invasion.
plus, their failure to elevate and use ryback effectively.
also, in the future, ruined batista's return for the marketing/pr draw for a marvel movie.
as there was no actual talent who made logical sense for batista to go against in a mainevent program.
that fit their apparent muscle head agenda and is the bread and butter original draw for the company./
the company is so far gone.
they don't even know how to properly book anything outside of clique based failed booking.
when, the model of superhw vs superhw from the rocky/hogun/rocknwrasslin.
would and can still work if they used the principles booked correctly.
if ryback was built up properly,....
we could have had a brock vs ryback program.
that eventually would have lead to a brock vs batista dream match, for the whc.
plus, had ryback waiting in the wings as a viable believeable challenger, as well.
not to mention, if ryback was booked accurrately.
it would have actually left it open for rock vs hhh for the wwe title, at mania.
without running out the drawing shelf life of rock/cena iii, at mania.
plus, created cred for the whc.
with batista returning later,...for a pr run for a marvel movie.
just complete inept planning and failure to recognize a draw.
then, also sabotage what should be a huge draw for them in ryback.
if ryback was still booked accurrately....
we could be getting power based matchups, every week/month/year
ryback vs
big E
rusev : weak ass
batista
gator : as a side tune up match, ongoing mini feud that could have elevated titus, too.
brock
bray wyatt
luke harper
rowan
which all fit into the original sweetspot draws of what wwf/wwe was originally about in scope as far as mainevents.
plus, it would have opened up a lane for triple h, and a host of part time maineventers to not completely overshadow the full timers.
plus, daniel bryan would have a host of super heavies to play goliath against.
whether he was in the wwe or whc title hunt.
where you could have easily moved competitors back and forth and still kept the excitement for those engagements as well.
art barr
also,...
to triple h,..i see you trying to seed a versus the rock mania program.
when, you could have set everything right for a new boom.
if you went against the rock and had the style of promos you just recently had on raw to no real pop.
back when, the rock beat punk for the wwe title.
yet, you and vince are nuffin but born or married into money and not really that fukk'n smart.
which is why you know pr you steal from the internet.
when, you been stealing from the internet and just dont' know what to steal, to make a really great draw.
leading to ryback in the chase after brock.
which could have been used to elevate the world heavyweight title belt, or big gold.
back into the same sentiment as the wwe title.
where they would have never had to ruin taker's streak.
plus, would have never had to unify the title.
which created a horrific logjam of talent and no viable plausible booking avenues for the talent on the roster.
just complete pisspoor booking and the point in time.
you can point to the wwe not knowing what to do.
plus, being scared to create new stars that were not using the clique past members blueprint.
which would have created the spreadsheet authenication.
for them to use other types of drawing models for their own grassroots based draws/grapplers.
they did not use the goldberg template.
as they are set on trying to bury the legacy of wcw.
when, it is proven they have ruined their draw, and self sabotaged their own boom.
by not incorporating, and effectively using their own acquisitions.
while, being scared of their own acquisitions drawing power that they own and should have no fear in using to create an even larger boom.
than, what was present when, they buried wcw and ecw and the invasion.
plus, their failure to elevate and use ryback effectively.
also, in the future, ruined batista's return for the marketing/pr draw for a marvel movie.
as there was no actual talent who made logical sense for batista to go against in a mainevent program.
that fit their apparent muscle head agenda and is the bread and butter original draw for the company./
the company is so far gone.
they don't even know how to properly book anything outside of clique based failed booking.
when, the model of superhw vs superhw from the rocky/hogun/rocknwrasslin.
would and can still work if they used the principles booked correctly.
if ryback was built up properly,....
we could have had a brock vs ryback program.
that eventually would have lead to a brock vs batista dream match, for the whc.
plus, had ryback waiting in the wings as a viable believeable challenger, as well.
not to mention, if ryback was booked accurrately.
it would have actually left it open for rock vs hhh for the wwe title, at mania.
without running out the drawing shelf life of rock/cena iii, at mania.
plus, created cred for the whc.
with batista returning later,...for a pr run for a marvel movie.
just complete inept planning and failure to recognize a draw.
then, also sabotage what should be a huge draw for them in ryback.
if ryback was still booked accurrately....
we could be getting power based matchups, every week/month/year
ryback vs
big E
rusev : weak ass
batista
gator : as a side tune up match, ongoing mini feud that could have elevated titus, too.
brock
bray wyatt
luke harper
rowan
which all fit into the original sweetspot draws of what wwf/wwe was originally about in scope as far as mainevents.
plus, it would have opened up a lane for triple h, and a host of part time maineventers to not completely overshadow the full timers.
plus, daniel bryan would have a host of super heavies to play goliath against.
whether he was in the wwe or whc title hunt.
where you could have easily moved competitors back and forth and still kept the excitement for those engagements as well.
art barr
also,...
to triple h,..i see you trying to seed a versus the rock mania program.
when, you could have set everything right for a new boom.
if you went against the rock and had the style of promos you just recently had on raw to no real pop.
back when, the rock beat punk for the wwe title.
yet, you and vince are nuffin but born or married into money and not really that fukk'n smart.
which is why you know pr you steal from the internet.
when, you been stealing from the internet and just dont' know what to steal, to make a really great draw.
Either the match shouldn't have happened or he should of won...it drew..so Ryback was working. After he lost, it was right back to terrible Punk numbers.
The Great One
Swag Surfin
No he was ruined by the Cena feud.
He should have KILLED Punk in that feud and beat him, and I don't even like Ryback like that.
But he was was over huge, has the look they like and the guy generally loves wrestling.
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
he wasn't even close to ready then and was gonna fail bad as a babyface.
THE CHANT WAS OVER...he was unproven and a title run for him would've ruined him on some del rio / jack swagger shyt. He shouldn'tve faced punk in the first place but he definitely shouldn'tve gone over.
the time to push him was what was turning into a great heel turn, vs. cena. it was maybe cena's worst burial ever IMO