Should the blacc community stop using "suburb nikka" as an insult?

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

lol yes lets act like relatively stable two parent environments without a preponderance for violent crime dont allow children to develop greater critical thinking skills

Didn't know these problems were bound to the inner city, wow.
Most suburban black people have 2 parent households?
Are you sure?
70% of black households are headed by women. This is in NO WAY limited to the inner city.
I'm pretty sure fatherhood is evenly spread between both areas. I'm also QUITE sure about 60% plus marriages, across the board, ending in divorce.
Did you totally ignore our posts about stable, nice majority black hoods with manicured lawns, full of property owners?
If one is exposed to more real life "adult" situations that require adaptability, instead of abstract word problems whilst surrounded by (64,000 a year dead, mainly suburban) an ongoing opiate crisis... would help one develop better "on the ground" critical thinking skills.
Most people I've seen actually come up from the bottom do better and have more staying power than those born into privilege without WEALTH backing it up.
When suburban blacks have that performance drop and/or lifestyle downgrade, it's not easy to bounce back.
We're in an economy where comfy cacs are having"economic anxiety"...
We'll see how black folks raised up with them do without the padding of whiteness.

Nothing is safe.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

You've lived everywhere. You've been more places than Carmen San Diego.

You said Parkdale is walk in the park for you.

It was but people up here think it's something else.

I can say that about a lot of neighborhoods.
Perception.
I'm sure folks from there would consider where I lived in PG county to be the hood...and it was more expensive.
Was it?
nikkas ain't bother me and I was always outside on my way to work, the store, the weedman, or just walking.
Only folks bothered me was police.


That happens everywhere.
(Minus Florida, for some odd reason. )

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Rural whites diss "city boys"
City whites clown "suburb whites"
the list goes on. I'm sorry you're limited to southern black spaces.
They care more than we do, tbh. They also know the suburbs isn't a "come up"...and are moving back to cities.
Only super poor white trash still have that goal.

I used to see that shyt on City-Data all the damn time

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I used to see that shyt on City-Data all the damn time

"You don't know shyt about life, you're from Parma. Go sip your Starbucks, soyboy"

 

[chowism]

nah, I personally don't respect ur opinion on anything outside of nerdy tech sh1t if ur black and from the burbs

If Kanye grew up in the hood he'd be less of a fukboi as an adult

Very dumb post

 

[Take It In Blood]

Very dumb post

fuk up Carlton

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Well I’m from PG County, MD so I can’t really relate to most “suburb nikkas” since PG is kinda unique. It’s one of the few predominately Black suburbs in the country that has a really large Black middle class but also has noticeable poverty and hood areas too especially near the borders with DC. Plus most of us born & bred in PG like myself have parents who were originally from DC, especially the Soufside and Northeast.

In my county, you could have a nikka who may seem more cac-friendly than others while growing around a mixed group of kids (a Bowie or Laurel nikka), a nikka who’s on some straight guttah shyt banging for his hood (Suitland, Cap Heights, Riverdale, Temple Hills, Forest Creek, etc. type nikkas), a nikka who’s comes from a chill somewhat country background (Accokeek, Upper Marlboro, Marlton, Fort Washington, Clinton, etc. type nikkas), and a nikka who’s more on that “good kid maad city” tip (prolly Walker Mill, Oxon Hill, District Heights, Hyattsville, Bladensburg, etc. type nikkas) attending the same high school together. Basically in PG, you got the hood, the country, and the boonies all rolled up into one.

PG got just a lil over 900,000 ppl and its land size is almost as big as LA city limits, so it’s a big ass county. 65% Black and what makes it even better is that the white population has been getting smaller since 2010 where it’s less than 20% or something like that. DC may no longer be The Chocolate City but the DMV still got The Chocolate County holding shyt down

I think the only Black county that can answer us is Dekalb down in GA.

 

[Marc Spector]

Didn't know these problems were bound to the inner city, wow.
Most suburban black people have 2 parent households?
Are you sure?
70% of black households are headed by women. This is in NO WAY limited to the inner city.
I'm pretty sure fatherhood is evenly spread between both areas. I'm also QUITE sure about 60% plus marriages, across the board, ending in divorce.
Did you totally ignore our posts about stable, nice majority black hoods with manicured lawns, full of property owners?
If one is exposed to more real life "adult" situations that require adaptability, instead of abstract word problems whilst surrounded by (64,000 a year dead, mainly suburban) an ongoing opiate crisis... would help one develop better "on the ground" critical thinking skills.
Most people I've seen actually come up from the bottom do better and have more staying power than those born into privilege without WEALTH backing it up.
When suburban blacks have that performance drop and/or lifestyle downgrade, it's not easy to bounce back.
We're in an economy where comfy cacs are having"economic anxiety"...
We'll see how black folks raised up with them do without the padding of whiteness.


Nothing is safe.

I read probably like a quarter of this but to be real this entire premise is kind of full of shyt.

Not sure where you are from but outside of the DMV, LA, Atlanta, Charlotte, NYC, there arent too many of these "black middle class hoods that are still in the inner city" that exist. And if they do they are getting gentrified all to hell.

Generally speaking for Black people, especially in the wider South, youre growing up in Black cities that are mostly comprised of lower to lower middle class income. May not be shootings everyday in your hood, but you grow up somewhat exposed to the fukkery of poverty.

So this whole binary of "You either grew up in the suburbs or in the inner city!!" is either disingenuous or ignorant, hell maybe both.

Furthermore. funny how you nikkas want it both ways. Many posters in this same thread have explicitly said that what separates the "hood nikkas from street nikkas" is not seeing real shyt like shootings, junkies, dead bodies, lack of hope in education and vocational attainment, etc....Yet you and a few other posters are saying "WELL NOT EVERY BLACK HOOD IS LIKE THAT AND THE SUBURBS HAVE THEIR FAIR SHARE OF PROBLEMS AND...."

So which is it, oochie wally wally or one mic? We trying to connote Blackness and street smarts with the bullshyt existence of Poverty? Because if not then this is a stupid, divisive argument .

 

[chowism]

fuk up Carlton

Your post was stupid as fukk.

 

[LunaticVillage415]

I don't got a problem with suburb nikkas who be themselves. The ones who admit that they had it good growing up in terms of environment and that they really don't know shyt about the ghetto. I got a problem with the Carlton Banks C-Note ass nikkas who watch too much Worldstar and think "acting black" and being from the hood are the same thing. These types of suburb nikkas are the worst c00ns out there because they think acting black and being a thug are the same thing.

Hip Hop really is a bad influence for suburb nikkas. The ones that literally choose to try to be thugs and its a joke. I grew up around Robert Yummy Sandifer types. They were already knee deep in the dope game and the mob life before they even hit puberty. A lot of them died hella young just like Yummy or locked up for multiple lifetimes all because they were born in the hood in a fukked up household. They didn't have a chance from day one.

So to see suburb nikkas turned out wanting to be career criminals after listening to Reasonable Doubt or Thug Motivation 101 is highly insulting. Folks from the suburbs just have more opportunities. Bullets used to come through the windows of my childhood home in the Bay. Watching the very real pitfalls of the drug game outside as a kid is the reason why I've never ever even sold a nickel bag in my life.

Having lived in both the hood and the suburbs, I kicked it with suburb nikkas before. I thought they were cool because they didn't dress, talk and act corny like token black nikkas. Come to find out these nikkas preparing for a career in the dope game in their 20's like it was college or trade school. They end up in and out of prison up to this day when they could have had a decent legal career doing anything they fukking wanted because nikkas were far from stupid. I made sure to tell them that they were fake suburban ass thugs after dealing with their petty asses and their hoe tendencies in a Mase disses Cam'Ron fashion, now them nikkas don't hit me up no more. Yeah the truth hurts, fukking clowns.

 

[Losttribe]

AS a suburb nikka

the biggest difference I see between suburb and hood nikkas is how quickly a hood nikka is to start hating on somebody else

From that perspective, your post makes total sense

I don't know what you mean by the social issues thing, but it's rarely people in the hood making changes out here, so I don't know where else it could be coming from. Other than white people.

^

 

[EndDomination]

And I have a strong dislike for a lot of suburban people as a whole, Black people are not the only people to come at "suburbanites" for being disingenuous or out-of-touch. Suburban people as a whole suck.
But suburbs come in different forms and manifest in different ways.

 

[EndDomination]

You’re right about the hating thing, i came from a 2 parent dual income home, but a lot didn’t. So they’re definitely gonna hate on “bel-air” black folks.

And what I mean by social issues is that most of us see both sides where people on the outside looking in see just the “oppression” side

I’ll catch hell for saying this but y’all suburb cats don’t see the real shyt - classmates murdered before graduation over nothing, dead bodies in the alley, prostitution, crack dealers being treated like kings; and not a white face in sight.

I’m not a fan of Kevin gates but he was spot on here:

He wasn't spot-on, he was entirely off point
BLM isn't focused on Black people dying as a whole, its focused on systemic racism leading to Black men and women being murdered disproportionately by police, being locked up in prison disproportionately for non-violent drug offenses, large scale poverty perpetuated since slavery, etc.

It isn't necessarily focused on eradicating violence as a whole, an impossible task. Its focused on holding racist murderers accountable and stopping the systemic bias against Black peoples.

 

[Shadow King]

1. We can't talk about gentrification then act like if you're black being "real" can only come from being in "the hood" which almost always an inner city setting.
2. The Coli double-speaks on this because "black people aren't a monolith" yet you're a lesser representation of blackness if you didn't grow up in the hood with any degree of struggle or habits usually found in the hood.

In short, yes.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

He wasn't spot-on, he was entirely off point
BLM isn't focused on Black people dying as a whole, its focused on systemic racism leading to Black men and women being murdered disproportionately by police, being locked up in prison disproportionately for non-violent drug offenses, large scale poverty perpetuated since slavery, etc.

It isn't necessarily focused on eradicating violence as a whole, an impossible task. Its focused on holding racist murderers accountable and stopping the systemic bias against Black peoples.

Here’s a question you’ll pretend to not see:

was he right about us falling to pieces when white people shoot us but ignore when we do it to ourselves?

If so then he was spot on