Should the government pay for women's birth control?

[ExodusNirvana]

Margret Sanger would be very proud of the current state of the black community, we're all falling right in order with their plans

That is a common and already debunked misconception

 

[ill]

Actually yes, birth control pills are very cheap and will reduce the amount of unplanned pregnancies in impoverished communities. In conjunction with the use of condoms will nearly eradicate the chance of accidental pregnancies. Now this needs to happen in conjunction with increased education about the ups and downs, but I can assure you in the long run that this cheaper than raising unwanted children in the system and giving out welfare.

Agreed.

The Roe v Wade abortion decision was the single greatest factor for the decline in crime rates in the past 3 decades. Paying a small amount now for BC will reap dividends when we don't have major crime rates down the road due to unwanted pregnancies/people that can't properly care for their kids.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Agreed.

The Roe v Wade abortion decision was the single greatest factor for the decline in crime rates in the past 3 decades. Paying a small amount now for BC will reap dividends when we don't have major crime rates down the road due to unwanted pregnancies/people that can't properly care for their kids.

Are you going on record stating that there is a direct correlation between crime and poverty

*points microphone at Ill*

 

[ill]

Are you going on record stating that there is a direct correlation between crime and poverty

*points microphone at Ill*

Of coarse. Ive never said otherwise. Here's a good read on how Roe v Wade drastically reduced the crime rate in this country as well as others that allowed abortions.

Freakonomics » Abortion and crime: who should you believe?

 

[brick james]

Paying for birth control is the logical slippery slope into promoting eugenics.

There's your societal issue.

It wasn't that long ago that Black women and Native American women and 'lesser' white women were sterilized against their will and without their consent. Happened one hundred years ago, happened 50 years ago, happened 20 years ago. We may even find out that it's still happening, but they've gotten slicker about it.

Besides, you don't pay for just women's birth control, you pay for men's as well.

Do you have any links for this? As far as I understood forced sterilization was very rare when compared to rape and giving birth to a mixed baby.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Of coarse. Ive never said otherwise. Here's a good read on how Roe v Wade drastically reduced the crime rate in this country as well as others that allowed abortions.

Freakonomics » Abortion and crime: who should you believe?

Oh no need for the link friend...I'm just trolling

Nah but seriously, a lot of people either disagree with you or just don't agree. They would much rather keep prisons packed, incarcerate and destroy the minds of millions of men and women (high percentage of minorities!) than to simply admit that they probably would not have committed these crimes if they grew up in a household with both parents and not in poverty.

 

[ill]

Oh no need for the link friend...I'm just trolling

Nah but seriously, a lot of people either disagree with you or just don't agree. They would much rather keep prisons packed, incarcerate and destroy the minds of millions of men and women (high percentage of minorities!) than to simply admit that they probably would not have committed these crimes if they grew up in a household with both parents and not in poverty.

I'd recommend that Freaknomics book/podcast if you haven't checked it out yet. They touch on this subject a lot and cut through the bullshyt rhetoric and find the real culprit in these situations. They talk a lot about the household and its impact on the development of kids in respect to their upbringing.

 

[live it to the limit]

Yes, it's either pay for birth control or have abortion rates go up along with more kids being on government aid until they're 18.
Birth control has other uses than keeping women from getting pregnant. It's helps with heavy bleeding, lowers the risk of certain cancers, etc.
I never understood men who are against women's reproductive rights but want to fukk all the time

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Margret Sanger would be very proud of the current state of the black community, we're all falling right in order with their plans

Doesn't matter about who Margaret Sanger is. I'm talking about today.

Fact of the matter is, we're talking bout the Pill and IUDs and Nuvarings, etc.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Yes, it's either pay for birth control or have abortion rates go up along with more kids being on government aid until they're 18.
Birth control has other uses than keeping women from getting pregnant. It's helps with heavy bleeding, lowers the risk of certain cancers, etc.
I never understood men who are against women's reproductive rights but want to fukk all the time

They are usually either gay or super religious fukktards

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Ill and @ExodusNirvana I'm well aware of that freakanomics post and the surrounding arguments...but on principle, should the government pay?

This isn't a medical decision we're talking here. This is family planning, good or bad.

And yes, relief from menstruation etc.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

@Ill and @ExodusNirvana I'm well aware of that freakanomics post and the surrounding arguments...but on principle, should the government pay?

This isn't a medical decision we're talking here. This is family planning, good or bad.

And yes, relief from menstruation etc.

That's the thing tho breh...

"Should the government pay for...." is a really broad question for anything. What is the purpose of government? I guarantee your answer can be used to justify paying for anything that would make the lives of it's constituents better

 

[MajorVitaman]

Doesn't matter about who Margaret Sanger is. I'm talking about today.

Fact of the matter is, we're talking bout the Pill and IUDs and Nuvarings, etc.

The fact of the matter is that Margret Sanger and the Eugenicists society and planned parenthood are mainly supplying these services for black people world wide.

Meanwhile in European countries they are spending billions of dollars in fertility drugs & research to bring their population up.

Keep playing checkers brehettes

 

[MajorVitaman]

That is a common and already debunked misconception

Go ask Ethiopian Israelis what they think about this "misconception"

 

[MajorVitaman]

Do you have any links for this? As far as I understood forced sterilization was very rare when compared to rape and giving birth to a mixed baby.

Israel admits Ethiopian women were given birth control shots - National

Allow Jewish feminists to inject hormones against your wills brehettes