Should there be legislation created to limit automation?

[Renegade47]

Its gonna get to the point where people arent going to have job options.

i see people say “hey these machines are gonna need maintenance “ not everyone is gonna want to do IT shyt and there will also be a limit to how many people can be hired for that role. they not finna staff 30 people to work on these machines because not all the machines will need to be maintained at the same time.

Its to the point where they really dont need humans for insurance claims you can do everything online. you will only need to call in for disputes that 9/10 will not go in your favor.

every store has self checkout now with only 2 registers open. and we’re not far from stores automating shelf stocking.

dystopian future not that far away brehs/brehettes

 

[Mowgli]

It's not ITs job to create jobs.

With some imagination there will always be something new to do.

The last population boom was because of the oil industry and now that that's fading away, there will be a reduction of humans to accomdate for the new age of nonsense these devils have planned. Entire towns were created around extraction of natural resources.

I guess we just gotta make sure We aren't on the outside when these shifts happen

 

[Turbulent]

Imagine if they did that after inventing the wheel

 

[Renegade47]

Imagine if they did that after inventing the wheel

breh its getting to the point where humans aren’t needed for business to run. gone be crazy in 2030 seeing an automated mini forklift stocking boxes of maruchan noodles in walmart

 

[Mike809]

You shouldn't stop progress.

 

[Renegade47]

You shouldn't stop progress.

even to the point it could pass a threshold where human employees arent needed?

 

[the bossman]

It's not going to get better. Govts ain't really gonna have a choice. Universal basic income is going to be a thing to offset this.

 

[Mike809]

even to the point it could pass a threshold where human employees arent needed?

I'm sure the different governments of the world will inplement some kind of universal income if human employees aint needed.

Stakeholders know that if people aint getting money, then what good does Ai/automation do ?

 

[FaTaL]

Its gonna get to the point where people arent going to have job options.

i see people say “hey these machines are gonna need maintenance “ not everyone is gonna want to do IT shyt and there will also be a limit to how many people can be hired for that role. they not finna staff 30 people to work on these machines because not all the machines will need to be maintained at the same time.

Its to the point where they really dont need humans for insurance claims you can do everything online. you will only need to call in for disputes that 9/10 will not go in your favor.

every store has self checkout now with only 2 registers open. and we’re not far from stores automating shelf stocking.

dystopian future not that far away brehs/brehettes

Yea the rich people will like your idea

 

[Genos]

Purposefully handicap yourself in the world economy brehs. Why not just go back to computers at all? I'm sure a human brain can keep up with a computer

 

[CopiousX]

Its gonna get to the point where people arent going to have job options.

i see people say “hey these machines are gonna need maintenance “ not everyone is gonna want to do IT shyt and there will also be a limit to how many people can be hired for that role. they not finna staff 30 people to work on these machines because not all the machines will need to be maintained at the same time.

Its to the point where they really dont need humans for insurance claims you can do everything online. you will only need to call in for disputes that 9/10 will not go in your favor.

every store has self checkout now with only 2 registers open. and we’re not far from stores automating shelf stocking.

dystopian future not that far away brehs/brehettes

Here is my response from an Amazon automation thread a few months ago. It sums up my thoughts pretty well. What do you think?

I agree.

But I think the software needs regulation, rather than Amazon. As odd as it sounds I think this tech needs to be regulated like biological sciences are. I know it sounds weird at first but, Lemme explain.

Spoiler: Why bioscience is different….

Generally speaking, Improvements in medicine, medtech/software, med devices, pharma , and other biosciences are incredibly incredibly incredibly (x3) slow. Like really really slow, because everything must be tested for adverse affects to people. And it’s understandable because people might literally die if their C++ code on their MRI has a glitch or if a chemist didn’t balance his potassiumNitrate equations well. This is the reason you don’t see unicorn medical companies or 20something medTech billionaires quickly rise up in a year or two. We slow it down on purpose for safety.

Spoiler: How traditional tech (Bezos) solves problems….

Now compare that to Silicon Valley, where tech code can be developed in a month and instituted just a month after that, only to be sold to the consumer in less than a year. They can do this because the code on Twitter or on a GoPro is not going to harm a human being. And this speed can turn into instant profits, as bugs can be fixed later.

But how does any of this relate to Amazon?



I don’t think Bezos did anything wrong by running algorithms, creating software, and mechanizing his workplaces. I think his error was that he treated these efficiency innovations like those Silicon Valley developments I mentioned earlier. Big mistake. The minute your software, hardware, and systems affect human beings THIS MUCH, I think your operation moves into the biological sciences rather than traditional tech. Remember the MRI example I gave earlier? Think about the python code running the HR system. That wife needed a pay check to pay for her dying employee husband, but it seems like a simple run-time error in Python code erased her request. A person could die from that.



The same thing could be said for the mechanization of human labor. Did Amazon run a biomechanics study for how quickly they run their people? What about a psyche evaluation of long term side effects of employee T.O.T and similar timing schemes? No. These are things that could/will save bodies and lives. These are also things that could be regulated if these algorithms, software, and mechanizations were treated like biological sciences(which they now are).

Spoiler: My takeaway to FIXING this mess

I’m picturing a solution to be something like the phase1, phase2, phase3, phase4, phase 5 testing that medical devices, medical software, pharma, biological techniques must do with the FDA. This should slow down the process enough to ensure human workers are not adversely affected by workplace tech development.

I’m sorry if I went a little long on this post. Hope it adds value to the thread.

In short, the automation process should be slowed down and should be regulated to check for adverse effects to the human workforce. I’m concerned from a health standpoint, more so than a employment one.


As far as losing jobs, there are many things that cannot be automated, so there will always be work elsewhere in society. For instance, there used to be a milk man delivering milk to houses, and an ice man delivering ice, and even human gas-pumpers at gas stations. The moment these jobs disappeared, the laborers were simply transferred to other industries that could not be automated.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Its gonna get to the point where people arent going to have job options.

i see people say “hey these machines are gonna need maintenance “ not everyone is gonna want to do IT shyt and there will also be a limit to how many people can be hired for that role. they not finna staff 30 people to work on these machines because not all the machines will need to be maintained at the same time.

Its to the point where they really dont need humans for insurance claims you can do everything online. you will only need to call in for disputes that 9/10 will not go in your favor.

every store has self checkout now with only 2 registers open. and we’re not far from stores automating shelf stocking.

dystopian future not that far away brehs/brehettes

That IMO is a big myth. People have been saying that for decades but it never happens. Technology always creates jobs and opportunity along with making some old way of doing things obsolete.

People thought tractors would create massive unemployment.

 

[Paper Boi]

i think so, but it won't come under capitalism.


best thing we can do is to have a skill that is hard to automate.

like my job requires real human analysis that can interpret nuance in legal and government writing that a robot can not give.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Self checkout is a lick

 

[Renegade47]