Sinful nature of man: Why deliverance is necessary

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Proverbs 12:5 The thoughts of the righteous are right: but the counsels of the wicked are deceit.

Your original question was "how far would you pursue someone that treats you that way or allows you to be treated that way"

You didn't ask for justification you asked "How far". Not whether it was right or wrong but "how far" so let's not straw man here.


In relation to the all mighty yes a mere coli poster like you and I are weak. @010101

Why would I be prideful and spiteful towards something greater than myself. That's silly. Even in eastern religions, you have to overcome the ego.

Walking around and saying "I'm @010101 stronger than the infinite" is dumb as hell. Your human body itself has limitations. Just try holding your breath straight for 20 to 30 minutes and see just how strong you are bruh.

Matthew 5:5 - Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Isaiah 45:9 - Woe to him who strives with him who formed him, a pot among earthen pots! Does the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ or ‘Your work has no handles’
you would accept the things that cause you suffering as righteous as long as whoever you followed commanded you so¿

strawmen don't deserve answers¿ ha

overcoming the ego means submitting yourself to abuse¿

you know how many crimes came behind bible quote co-signs¿

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shut the fukk up ha

you can't spin me with the mystic bs

you can't cause a person harm then convince them you are helping them & be in the right

ain't no way to be a liar & a thief & be just

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there is none good but God

without God, we can do no good. That's why we are told to always seek God in our dealings. Look for God first

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you would accept the things that cause you suffering as righteous
Working out causes the body certain levels of stress and suffering while eating potato chips and laying on the couch watching Netflix is comfortable.

Just because something is comfortable doesn't automatically make doing it a wiser choice.
As whoever you followed commanded you so¿
And that's the good part GOD controls the left-hand side and right-hand side. From our perspective, it looks like we're acting out of free will but the most high already predestined certain people to be of his kingdom and other's to be of satan. GOD chooses you, you don't choose God. So whether you're in the scriptures or not he commands and has domain over your life.

Isaiah 45:7
7I form light and create darkness;
I make well-being and create calamity;
I am the LORD, who does all these things.

Romans 8:28-30
28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,[h] for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

John 6:44 kjv 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
 
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I dunno about this. There are many many many biblical examples of God literally doing this. Everything from ham, to esau, to Cain, to generations of israelites in Iran, to generations of Israelites in Syria, to generations if Israelite in Egypt, to generations of israelites under Roman opression, to even the reason your cousins live in Cleveland or Atlanta instead of the garden of Eden. I'll stop here for now, but I think you get my point.

And this is before quoting verses like Dueteronomy 5:9 , where God himself tells you that he will punish countless innocents for the deeds of their grandfathers.



Why can't we just accept God exactly the way he is presented in the Bible, instead of picking and choosing his attributes ? I worry that we stray into idolatry by exalting the portions of God that are pleasing to the wishes of man.
you know im glad you said this because people read the tough parts of the bible and cry "look! he is going to condemn us"

but they lost in translation because of how they "perceive" God which is nonsense because God cannot be fully perceived. Further we are aware of Jesus and his great mercy.

To an unbeliever the Old Testament is like fire, but to me its like medicine if you can attempt to digest its meaning

@Koichos there are things happening while you read it that actively change your perception and ultimately heal you while you read and meditate on it

It's been a strange meditation of mine that in the hasidic community the men can study torah all day and presumably not be bothered :wow: mystically that is amazing if you think about all the things happening in the world.
 

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there is none good but God

without God, we can do no good. That's why we are told to always seek God in our dealings. Look for God first

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what you find when you look is different from what i find

the truest thing you can say is admit you don't know shyte

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Working out causes the body certain levels of stress and suffering while eating potato chips and laying on the couch watching Netflix is comfortable.

Just because something is comfortable doesn't automatically make doing it a wiser choice.

And that's the good part GOD controls the left-hand side and right-hand side. From our perspective, it looks like we're acting out of free will but the most high already predestined certain people to be of his kingdom and other's to be of satan. GOD chooses you, you don't choose God. So whether you're in the scriptures or not he commands and has domain over your life.

Isaiah 45:7
7I form light and create darkness;
I make well-being and create calamity;
I am the LORD, who does all these things.

Romans 8:28-30
28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,[h] for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

John 6:44 kjv 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
so this back & forth is pointless ha*
 

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what you find when you look is different from what i find

the truest thing you can say is admit you don't know shyte

ha

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the better questions is: what are you looking for?

perhaps when we look we are already predisposed to the topic we are searching...

remember that post I made about "The Tokens of Afu Ra" in the world of men Set offered them sheaves of papyrus that they perceived to be wheat...
 

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Man is sinful because of inherited sin. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's basically a genetic birth marker that NO human can ever cure on their own or as a collective.

I suggest everyone to really step back and examine, ask in prayer and search for the truth about God and Jesus that is supported by, action and facts.
 
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so this back & forth is pointless ha*
For you it probably is bruh. But someone maybe a poster or guest just browsing could be edified by the exchange or maybe even led astray either way as the Most High intended for them to be.
 
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Man is sinful because of inherited sin. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's basically a genetic birth marker that NO human can ever cure on their own or as a collective.

I suggest everyone to really step back and examine, ask in prayer and search for the truth about God and Jesus that is supported by, action and facts.
lets say hypothetically the plot to demolition man happens



will you be eating rat burgers or would you eat vegan taco bell?
 

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the better questions is: what are you looking for?

perhaps when we look we are already predisposed to the topic we are searching...

remember that post I made about "The Tokens of Afu Ra" in the world of men Set offered them sheaves of papyrus that they perceived to be wheat...
what is the creator looking for in the damnation of the creators own creation¿*
 

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