Sinful nature of man: Why deliverance is necessary

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If you believe God is just, then you must believe he would never punish you for the sins of your ancestors…unless you continue their wicked ways.

So why must you pray.

Because, if the many lives you lived before now were played over to you and you saw how much of a hooligan you were, you would shiver with terror at the thought of there being a judgement day.

There are angels circling the earth like robotic machines bestowing salvation and damnation.
Some of you are on thin ice and you know it.

Repent today and surrender your pride to your God. Whether it be Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, El Shadai. As long as it is one God.

No this is not a religious talk. I’m a sinner. And I actively sin. Because without sin, the world will cease to be adventurous. However, when I approach the throne of my lord I say; have mercy upon me oh lord, this rascal of a son you created needs you. I turn to you because i know you. You delivered me from the grips of the beasts that roam the land I dwell. In the depths of tribulation, and in an hour my voice yields no sound, you heard my pleas through my trembling bones. Be kind to me and I will glorify your name.
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We Humans are a trip.
 
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you don't comprehend my conversation

so ignore it

i am not talking about you or to you

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I don't care to comprehend what your saying. I reject your conversation.

The devil is a lie, and you come in his spirit spouting jibberish pretending that it's wisdom. Your only point is to get people to question their faith. But God is real. I know it, and I see your agenda.

"The wise in heart accept commands, but a chattering fool comes to ruin."

-Proverbs 10:8

"Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly."
2 Timothy 2:16
 

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...that's the good part GOD controls the left-hand side and right-hand side. From our perspective, it looks like we're acting out of free will but the most high already predestined certain people to be of his kingdom and other's to be of satan. GOD chooses you, you don't choose God....
-So God created people knowing damn well they weren't chosen & were going to hell, gotcha
Man is sinful because of inherited sin. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's basically a genetic birth marker that NO human can ever cure on their own or as a collective.
-So would this explain traits we consider sinful that God displays in the bible since we were made in his image? Like jealousy & wrath?
 
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I don't care to comprehend what your saying. I reject your conversation.

The devil is a lie, and you come in his spirit spouting jibberish pretending that it's wisdom. Your only point is to get people to question their faith. But God is real. I know it, and I see your agenda.

"The wise in heart accept commands, but a chattering fool comes to ruin."

-Proverbs 10:8

"Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly."
2 Timothy 2:16
i get it

so like i said you really should ignore my posts

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-So God created people knowing damn well they weren't chosen & we're going to hell, gotcha
Yup Romans 9:19-21
19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?


Exodus 33:19 And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

In the same book in Exodus he hardens pharaoh's heart

Exodus 9:12 But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses. And by heart they mean the mind. As it was yesterday so it was today. God rejects you not the other way around.
 
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Yup they became more invested in controlling the flocks than truly guiding them. So they started bending the word to benefit their plan over God true message.
if God's words endures for thousands of years(or rather forever), think of the people who endure with his word?
 

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-So God created people knowing damn well they weren't chosen & were going to hell, gotcha

-So would this explain traits we consider sinful that God displays in the bible since we were made in his image? Like jealousy & wrath?
God created people to share the gift of life and to have free will.

A human can choose to do whatever they want. Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, you have the free will to make those conscious choices.
 

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...Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?...
-I don't create a cup out of clay & tell it it has the free will to be something other than a cup. Quoting passages won't change that what you posted clearly says certain people were created destined for hell & free will's an illusion.
God created people to share the gift of life and to have free will.
A human can choose to do whatever they want. Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, you have the free will to make those conscious choices.
-I'm not arguing right & wrong, I know we're responsible for our actions. You brought up inherited sin & birth markers so I'm asking if we're God's children & made in his image do YOU consider those kind of traits inherited from God?
 

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-I don't create a cup out of clay & tell it it has the free will to be something other than a cup. Quoting passages won't change that what you posted clearly says certain people were created destined for hell & free will's an illusion.

-I'm not arguing right & wrong, I know we're responsible for our actions. You brought up inherited sin & birth markers so I'm asking if we're God's children & made in his image do YOU consider those kind of traits inherited from God?
We are made in his image so yes. However God is perfect, so any anger, and jealously will always be perfectly handled, maintained or executed.

God himself says he will unleash his wrath, romans 1:18 and psalms 78:31 and he spoke of being a jealous God but not in the twisted sense that we as imperfect humans handle jealousy. 2 Corinthians 11:2 is a good example.


I liken it to a kid and a adult as a kid we just don't know how to express or handle most emotions or feelings. So what do toddlers do? They throw temper tantrums, and wild out because they aren't equipped to handle emotions that they are feeling.

As imperfect humans it's much the same, sadly we brought it up on ourselves initially.
 

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We are made in his image so yes. However God is perfect, so any anger, and jealously will always be perfectly handled, maintained or executed.

God himself says he will unleash his wrath, romans 1:18 and psalms 78:31 and he spoke of being a jealous God but not in the twisted sense that we as imperfect humans handle jealousy. 2 Corinthians 11:2 is a good example.


I liken it to a kid and a adult as a kid we just don't know how to express or handle most emotions or feelings. So what do toddlers do? They throw temper tantrums, and wild out because they aren't equipped to handle emotions that they are feeling.

As imperfect humans it's much the same, sadly we brought it up on ourselves initially.
no one is born wise

and even once you profess to be wise, you can be taken in your own wisdom

thats why we need the good shepherd
 
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