Singapore's Free Market Socialism is about to crash

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Is Singapore's 'perfect' economy coming apart?

Yeoh interprets this kind of nativism and nationalism, which is on the rise around the world, as a demand for social protection that is not being met within the current political system.

"When people hurt ... they go back to their animal way of looking at things, which is totally irrational, primitive, which is what you have in the U.S. and U.K. right now," he says.

Yeoh insists that the inevitable impacts of globalization and technological shifts on average people need to be mitigated by governments through social safety nets. Time is running out, and the threats are mounting.

"These forces of the gig economy, [artificial intelligence,] technological unemployment, competition from China and India, the breakdown of the global trading system, the disintermediation of manufacturing chains around the world ... the aging of our population -- are going to gradually immiserate the average voter. It's a slow fuse time bomb," he says. "We've got to think: Social protection is the key."

Self-reliance

Welfare is a hard sell in Singapore, where meritocracy is still a mantra. The country has no unemployment insurance, very limited unemployment benefits or in-work benefits for low wage earners, little state support for pensions. This is partly a function of its early success. As it moved rapidly through the stages of development, people's livelihoods improved enough that welfare was not a consideration.

"Singapore, for the first 40 years, never needed robust social safety nets," Donald Low says. "Now that society is a lot more mature, and all the low-hanging fruit in terms of progress up the socioeconomic ladder ... have been harvested. With or without growth, social mobility is going to slow."


The government has made some concessions, with support packages for some elderly and poorer Singaporeans, and tighter migration controls. Critics like Low and Keong argue that these are still inadequate, and that the government could afford a lot more. Singapore runs a structural fiscal surplus -- S$2.1 billion in fiscal 2018. Almost uniquely among developed economies, Singapore has the financial firepower to tackle its problems.

"We are so parsimonious. We save everything for a rainy day," Yeoh said. "But we need to use that surplus to stave off the bogeyman. ... It's raining like hell."

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Singapore is a weird mix capitalism, market based solutions, and socialism. I don't know if it can really be categorized as a social democracy. However, other economists who seem to be pro-capitalism are concerned that if this breaks down, the other capitalist countries don't stand a chance. At least from my cursory reading.

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Maybe it's the china effect ,with the millionaires controlling everything
 

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Clearly Singapore is Alt-Righty Then ....:sas2:

They gone make Malaysia pay for that river wall
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I'm confused and not gonna pretend like I know...Singapore's economy was thriving to the point that none of their citizens were struggling for food/unemployment/housing, thus no need for social safety nets?

hmm, just like a whiteman that's anti-interracial unions don't mean he's a racist, maybe citizens concerned about the impact of immigration and globalism, isn't xenophobic or "totally irrational, primitive"
 

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It seems that it all boils down to too many immigrants taking Singaporean jobs and money
Pretty much...

Not a welfare state but the Govt of Singapore provides citizens quite a few benefits. Income tax is very low and only hits double digits upwards of 100K, topping out at 22%. Capital gains @ 0%. The poor get a quality education, that's heavily subsidized, if not free. The vast majority live in state housing, that essentially serves as their retirement fund:
The cash Singaporeans use to buy HDB’s properties is provided in part by the Central Provident Fund (CPF), a mandatory national-savings scheme into which most citizens of working age are required to squirrel 20% of their monthly salary (employers must contribute a further 17%). Citizens are entitled to draw down a portion of their savings to use as a deposit on an HDB apartment. Many are also entitled to cheap mortgages provided by HDB, and to use their CPF contributions to meet some or all of the monthly payments.

By many measures the system is a success. Singapore has virtually no homelessness. HDB’s towers are somewhat drab to look at, but they are clean and safe and their apartments spacious enough. HDB housing is more affordable than comparable accommodation in Hong Kong, London and some other rich cities: the agency says that on average first-time buyers devote less than a quarter of household income to their mortgages.

It is also a good deal for the state. In 2015-16 the treasury put aside S$1.8bn, or 2.4% of the national budget, for housing, which was enough to cover HDB’s annual deficit. (The agency itself had a budget of S$17bn; it benefits from government loans but also borrows from banks and the bond market.) The government says it has paid a little over S$28bn in grants to HDB since its founding in the 1960s.

Handouts linked to housing are one reason Singapore manages to do without a conventional tax-funded pension scheme. The theory is that almost all Singaporeans will own apartments outright by the time they finish working, in addition to having savings of their own. Those willing to downsize upon retirement—or “right-size”, as the government likes to say—do best. Singaporeans are granted an extra discount if they choose to buy property located in the same neighbourhood as their parents, nudging them to help with care that could otherwise fall to the state.
Why 80% of Singaporeans live in government-built flats

Their system has it's issues, but I like it :yeshrug:
 

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It seems that it all boils down to too many immigrants taking Singaporean jobs and money
Breh, the entire population of Singapore is immigrants, the whole thing was jungle when the British turned it into a port. Chinese run the whole place. They complaining about immigrants taking the jobs of immigrants. :mjlol:
 

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I'm confused and not gonna pretend like I know...Singapore's economy was thriving to the point that none of their citizens were struggling for food/unemployment/housing, thus no need for social safety nets?
Considering much of the employment and housing is provided by the government, that's not the clearest way to state it.

Singapore is a British port/trading post that grew into a city. It has no real native population, just people who came over time to fill jobs and stayed.

It doesn't generate most of its own economic activity. Instead, it is powered by outside capital and goods. Shipping companies drop stuff of in its ports and others pick it up. Tourists fly into the airport as a hub to go somewhere else. It's one of the world's biggest foreign exchange centers, on of the world's biggest gambling centers, one of the major places where rich people hide their money offshore.

That's not to say that Singapore has zero of its own economic activity. They're a center for ship repair, they make computers and some other tech. But the reason their economy is so juiced is because they're laundering activity from the rest of the world AND don't have a historic native population to support.

Also, about a third of Singapore's government revenue comes from sales tax, property tax, and gambling tax - options not available to governments in some other places. Another third comes from corporate taxes, which like I said involves a great deal of taxing of economic activity that is explicitly avoiding taxes elsewhere.

It's a pretty artificial model and literally can't be replicated elsewhere because there can only be so many countries that profit off of other country's economic activity.



hmm, just like a whiteman that's anti-interracial unions don't mean he's a racist, maybe citizens concerned about the impact of immigration and globalism, isn't xenophobic or "totally irrational, primitive"
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