“Single motherhood is good for kids. Let us now praise single mothers”- CNN

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this is really it....

women want to feel guilt free raising boys to men without a lifetime of displaying the compromise and effort it takes to keep a relationship/family together...

women are disgusted by all the men (vast majority raised by single mothers) who don't understand the compromise and effort it takes to keep a relationship/family together...

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got damn MESSAGE

If that doesn’t sum it up right there :ohmy:

Real talk, this is why ppl always advise girls to find a guy who grew up with both parents, and why ppl advise boys to find a girl who grew up with both parents.


People aren’t being honest out here. Being a single parent is supposed to be avoided.
 

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All i meant was don't have sex with ain't shyt women. That's all that needs to be done. If we are truly against the single mother mindset, and I know we are, we would choose the women we sleep with wisely.
Bruh, I don't even associate with women of that caliber. 😐 Any woman I deal with got a good head on their shoulders, and alot to lose.
 

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I haven’t read it yet. Just chuckled at the faux outrage that is gonna come in a few.

If it’s saying that positive, healthy single families are better than abusive, two-parent homes then yes. I agree.

Ifs it’s saying that being raised in a single parent family doesn’t preclude you from being raised in a healthy environment, then I also agree.

If it’s saying single parent homes are better than two parent homes when all other variables are accounted for, I don’t agree.

However, it seems as if this is the direction we are moving towards.

Especially when: Parenting, Baby Names, Celebrities, and Royal News | CafeMom.com

TBH, I personally think women are just tired and fed up and don’t want to deal with men beyond having children. My uncle was like “it seems like they just want the kid and not the husband”. This tracks with the uptick in women going to sperm banks and becoming single moms by choice.

But don’t worry. Pretty soon this won’t be a problem because women are increasingly saying fukk them kids to the point that they predict


With all the shyt we talk about women, the rape, sexual assault, molestation, misogyny, disrespect, hate, stalking, violence, games, shame, judgement and legislation directly targeting women, you’d have to be a village idiot not to see this shyt looming on the horizon. Because I been seeing it for the past decade.
I agree with you here. The really really safe bet is to not take the chance at all, and we’re definitely trending in that direction.

There’s a lot of tough stuff women and girls go through in society that isn’t really acknowledged.
Forming a healthy partnership is one of the best things we can do…but it that isn’t happening for whatever reason…yea🤷🏾‍♀️

Personally, I’m deathly afraid of getting married and having kids and splitting up. I’m also not the type to sit in a burning building either so I’d leave if it the household became toxic. But yea. There are legitimately concerns on both ends.

I do think more women are feeling comfortable deciding not to have kids, and that more women in the past wished they could the same without society’s scrutiny.

And also, it’s getting more and more expensive to start/raise a family, which is by design I’m sure. Many factors at play…
 

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Yes I actually watched a documentary of that time you're referring to. And there was young Blk men saying they were willingly leaving the home because they couldn't provide for their families. There was also BM saying they would stay and make it work. Didn't see anything about being force to leave but ya'll will never let that go no matter how false it is.

Honestly if BM in mass decided they wanted to be in the lives of their children there wouldn't be an fatherless issue regardless of the martial status of the mothers. Ya'll don't need BW to change you could literally change the community overnight but ya'll rather just complain about women you cannot change.
funny how black men are the most involved parents of all demographics when it comes to the percentage of effort in 2 parent household AND split families ....

but we STILL not doing enough.... and the blame still lies on us....

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one of the main points of the studies was the correlation between split families and the decline in marriage...

the decline in marriage is a 2 part problem....

the last person who spoke on the forbidden side of those 2 parts in the mainstream has had his death celebrated for awhile now...

:francis:
 

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:mjlol: Single mothers are breeding the men they don't want. And then turning around and arguing their right to so. While also saying men ain't shyt. :deadrose:

I can't deal with women, I don't know how yall do it. :snoop:
Lmao! Nah that’s not the whole issue IMO.

These aren’t just the men born to single moms. Nor are we talking JUST about women in our own community. Even in communities with a great majority of two-parent families, we are seeing similar pushback.

This shyt is trending worldwide. And women were complaining about men long before the single mom eras. In fact, most of the common refrains I hear from women are very similar to ones from past eras. Plenty of ain’t shyt dudes and chicks have been raised in two-parent families. They were complaining about those too and in the past. The only thing that has changed is women gaining the right to opt out. A few decades ago, a chick couldn’t even open an account in her own name. Now women are nearly leading in homeownership. The ability to make those types of moves on your own terms, makes you reevaluate whether you want to even consider the potential fukkery that comes with a relationship.:yeshrug:

When you get Korean women pushing an entire movement called the 4B movement: no sex, no babies, no marriage, no dating and following thru with catastrophically low birth rates, the world is changing right before our eyes.:francis:
At some point, if the relationship doesn’t serve you, you opt out.
We are in a world where everything society took for granted as necessary roles you must follow are being re-evaluated. People not even following pathways for traditional careers anymore. In such an environment, a lotta people are also reevaluating whether the stress of relationships are worth it too. And for a lotta women, it’s seems like the answer is no. I’m not sure if that’s going to change without some major adjustments from both genders.

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I agree with you here. The really really safe bet is to not take the chance at all, and we’re definitely trending in that direction.

There’s a lot of tough stuff women and girls go through in society that isn’t really acknowledged.
Forming a healthy partnership is one of the best things we can do…but it that isn’t happening for whatever reason…yea🤷🏾‍♀️

Personally, I’m deathly afraid of getting married and having kids and splitting up. I’m also not the type to sit in a burning building either so I’d leave if it the household became toxic. But yea. There are legitimately concerns on both ends.

I do think more women are feeling comfortable deciding not to have kids, and that more women in the past wished they could the same without society’s scrutiny.

And also, it’s getting more and more expensive to start/raise a family, which is by design I’m sure. Many factors at play…
Oh yeah. The writing has been on the wall for a minute. Most women in these studies keep saying the same thing.
“I don’t want to be cheated on. I want a someone I’m attracted to. I don’t want to be alone in a relationship. If I have to work, then he should help equally around the house. I want a partner who respects me as an equal. I want to orgasm. I don’t want to be taken for granted.” And so on. It’s the same stuff. But now, the tone has shifted as many are increasingly willing to go it alone if they can’t get their needs met in a relationship or find what they want.

At some point, people get tired of talking and start doing. I knew what the deal was when I saw women featuring heavily in real estate and gun ownership over the past few years. Many just seem like they don’t even want to attempt to be bothered.:yeshrug:I won’t even get into the sex.
 

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At some point, if the relationship doesn’t serve you, you opt out.
this is the most important part of your whole post.

Men and women have been complaining about each other since the beginning of time. But there is a well accepted societal norm for men to sacrifice and provide for the family. Divorces tend to be filed by women even though the rates of cheating aren’t much different between men and women. Even going to domestic violence, the rates between man on woman abuse and woman on man abuse aren’t that drastically different (even though men are able to cause more physical damage beyond a certain level.

The idea of being successful as a man is so you can provide for a family (wife + kids)

The idea of being successful as a woman is so you can live YOUR best life.

Women have seen that they can maintain the same standing in society without all the sacrifice. Men can’t do the same.

Choosing what’s best for “you” seems to be > than choosing what’s best (statistically) for the family.

Men will stay in a unhappy relationship waaaay longer than a woman will. Why is that?

What I don’t get is these women that “choose” to not deal with men who they complain about (not marriage worthy) are still fukking the same men they think ain’t marriage worthy. They not being celibate en masse.

Like… if they just went after guys that provide them what they need, they would be with a marriage worthy guy and be married. shyt is a paradox.

Relationships and marriages tend to have long crappy periods mixed in it. Men accept struggle and unhappiness as a fact of life. Women choose themselves over everything and children of multiple generations are the ones that suffer. But at least momma felt good about herself.

:francis:
 
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this is the most important part of your whole post.

Men and women have been complaining about each other since the beginning of time. But there is a well accepted societal norm for men to sacrifice and provide for the family. Divorces tend to be filed by women even though the rates of cheating aren’t much different between men and women. Even going to domestic violence, the rates between man on woman abuse and woman on man abuse aren’t that drastically different (even though men are able to cause more physical damage beyond a certain level.

The idea of being successful as a man is so you can provide for a family (wife + kids)

The idea of being successful as a woman is so you can live YOUR best life.

Women have seen that they can maintain the same standing in society without all the sacrifice. Men can’t do the same.

Choose what’s best for “you” seems to be > than choosing what’s best (statistically) for the family.

What I don’t get is these women that “choose” to not deal with men who they complain about (not marriage worthy) are still fukking the same men they think ain’t marriage worthy. They not being celibate en masse.

Like… if they just went after guys that provide them what they need, they would be with a marriage worthy guy and be married. shyt is a paradox.
The idea that women don’t sacrifice as much if not more than men in marriage just doesn’t compute for me. Numerous studies have actually demonstrated that women take on more stress in marriage than their male counterparts.

As for going after the guys that provide them with what they need, I think it’s just as hard to find a viable partner for them as it is for men. They are looking for someone who doesn’t make their clits wanna shrivel up and die…who also desires and loves them…who also isn’t a misogynistic a-hole, that has a stable career and can give them orgasms….that also is willing to put up with their bullshyt as well. It’s not easy. Also many women marry with the expectation that they will have lifelong companionship and friendship, but many report feeling lonely in their marriage. Think about how much of a mind fukk that is. The same dudes telling you to get married so you won’t be an ole cat lady, doesn’t even wanna be near you once you walk down the aisle. So you a married single mom/wife. :mjlol:
As for being celibate, sex has nothing to do with marriage. Right now there is a chick with great p*ssy that you probably wouldn’t wanna make a lifetime commitment to. Women face the same conundrum. Dude could have great dikk but be plain ole insufferable to deal with on a long-term basis. When faced with those choices…many are opting out.

They’ll get their kid or not. Get an okay career, a lil house, chill at the crib and travel with their friends. :yeshrug:
 

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Who is "they"? Liberals always have defended single parent households when it came to Black folks and considered any criticism to be "racist" or "sexist".

This is an interesting article that BGS reviewed, along with the original Moynihan Report. Folks been knew how detrimental this family structure can be but were determined to defend single mother lead households for political reasons.



The article:

The Black Family: 40 Years of Lies​

Rejecting the Moynihan report caused untold, needless misery.
The Black Family: 40 Years of Lies

They as in white people. Single mother f a milies have increased in their communities
 

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The idea that women don’t sacrifice as much if not more than men in marriage just doesn’t compute for me. Numerous studies have actually demonstrated that women take on more stress in marriage than their male counterparts.

As for going after the guys that provide them with what they need, I think it’s just as hard to find a viable partner for them as it is for men. They are looking for someone who doesn’t make their clits wanna shrivel up and die…who also desires and loves them…who also isn’t a misogynistic a-hole, that has a stable career and can give them orgasms….that also is willing to put up with their bullshyt as well. It’s not easy. Also many women marry with the expectation that they will have lifelong companionship and friendship, but many report feeling lonely in their marriage. Think about how much of a mind fukk that is. The same dudes telling you to get married so you won’t be an ole cat lady, doesn’t even wanna be near you once you walk down the aisle. So you a married single mom/wife. :mjlol:
As for being celibate, sex has nothing to do with marriage. Right now there is a chick with great p*ssy that you probably wouldn’t wanna make a lifetime commitment to. Women face the same conundrum. Dude could have great dikk but be plain ole insufferable to deal with on a long-term basis. When faced with those choices…many are opting out.

They’ll get their kid or not. Get an okay career, a lil house, chill at the crib and travel with their friends. :yeshrug:
Lol.

Men deal with the same issues in marriage. Loneliness, unhappiness, unmet expectations, boredom etc.

Men sacrifice in marriage too… I never alluded to the idea that women don’t. I was being specific about how women don’t feel sacrifice is necessary while society has sacrifice as a standard for men.. so we accept it.

You somehow think marriage is some bastion of euphoria for men and women are slaves to it. The biggest sign of something about your perspective being off is when you see how the lowest married demographic… the demographic that despises their men the most… actually have men that are statistically proven to be the most active in child raising and household duties out of all other groups.

Something ain’t adding up
 

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this is the most important part of your whole post.

Men and women have been complaining about each other since the beginning of time. But there is a well accepted societal norm for men to sacrifice and provide for the family. Divorces tend to be filed by women even though the rates of cheating aren’t much different between men and women. Even going to domestic violence, the rates between man on woman abuse and woman on man abuse aren’t that drastically different (even though men are able to cause more physical damage beyond a certain level.

The idea of being successful as a man is so you can provide for a family (wife + kids)

The idea of being successful as a woman is so you can live YOUR best life.

Women have seen that they can maintain the same standing in society without all the sacrifice. Men can’t do the same.

Choosing what’s best for “you” seems to be > than choosing what’s best (statistically) for the family.

Men will stay in a unhappy relationship waaaay longer than a woman will. Why is that?

What I don’t get is these women that “choose” to not deal with men who they complain about (not marriage worthy) are still fukking the same men they think ain’t marriage worthy. They not being celibate en masse.

Like… if they just went after guys that provide them what they need, they would be with a marriage worthy guy and be married. shyt is a paradox.

Relationships and marriages tend to have long crappy periods mixed in it. Men accept struggle and unhappiness as a fact of life. Women choose themselves over everything and children of multiple generations are the ones that suffer. But at least momma felt good about herself.

:francis:
The reason why is because when the laws change and they gave the kids to the women by default men stay so they can be with their kids. Women can achieve their goals without the husband. They can still have access to his resources and have that man utility/resources/slavery enforced by the state.

Men subcnciously know they need to keep the family together to see their kids daily. Women dont NEED to do that.. Everything on the chessboard is set up for them to win..
 

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The idea that women don’t sacrifice as much if not more than men in marriage just doesn’t compute for me. Numerous studies have actually demonstrated that women take on more stress in marriage than their male counterparts.

As for going after the guys that provide them with what they need, I think it’s just as hard to find a viable partner for them as it is for men. They are looking for someone who doesn’t make their clits wanna shrivel up and die…who also desires and loves them…who also isn’t a misogynistic a-hole, that has a stable career and can give them orgasms….that also is willing to put up with their bullshyt as well. It’s not easy. Also many women marry with the expectation that they will have lifelong companionship and friendship, but many report feeling lonely in their marriage. Think about how much of a mind fukk that is. The same dudes telling you to get married so you won’t be an ole cat lady, doesn’t even wanna be near you once you walk down the aisle. So you a married single mom/wife. :mjlol:
As for being celibate, sex has nothing to do with marriage. Right now there is a chick with great p*ssy that you probably wouldn’t wanna make a lifetime commitment to. Women face the same conundrum. Dude could have great dikk but be plain ole insufferable to deal with on a long-term basis. When faced with those choices…many are opting out.

They’ll get their kid or not. Get an okay career, a lil house, chill at the crib and travel with their friends. :yeshrug:
Sounds like you agree with the pump n dump lifestyle... fukk em and chuck em, check is in the mail? :camby:
 

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People not reading the article.

The article says being raised by a single mother is safer than being raised with two parents in an abusive relationship or an unhappy marriage. Cant argue with that.
Its a fukking stupid argument.. creating scenarios where of course one is better than the other but not typical.. its BS
 

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funny how black men are the most involved parents of all demographics when it comes to the percentage of effort in 2 parent household AND split families ....

but we STILL not doing enough.... and the blame still lies on us....

:francis:




one of the main points of the studies was the correlation between split families and the decline in marriage...

the decline in marriage is a 2 part problem....

the last person who spoke on the forbidden side of those 2 parts in the mainstream has had his death celebrated for awhile now...

:francis:
BM are the most involved WHEN they are involved. But the least involved overall.

And not being married doesn’t stop BM from being fathers. Again the problem is fatherlessness. The issue is the lack of desire to be fathers not how married or unmarried the mom is.

My father and mom was never married and I have a step father. None of that ever kept my dad out my life. He was a father because he wanted to be my father.
 
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