Single mothers are way poorer than I thought.

[EndDomination]

Those are anecdotes of .2% of the population.

Im asking for aggregate numbers to prove the frankly ridiculous claim that black 'wealth' is being dissipated by child support, especially since bp, in aggregate, have very little wealth to start with.

Black wealth is in no way affected by child support - except when men don't pay child support and things like tutoring services, summer camps and activities, league sports fees, and test preparation are out of reach for the child.

 

[EndDomination]

There's a reason why patriarchal communities ( Asians, Indians, Arabs) are the most restrictive when it comes to dating and marriage, the black community on the otherhand is anything goes, there really are no standards over here and we can see the fruits (lack thereof) of that. You can add Africans to the aforementioned groups.

Most families are restrictive when it comes to dating and marriage, the "Boule" Black families were at the exact same extremes as other communities when it comes to dating and marriage - the working class and poor Black community is loose, but poor communities tend to be loose as well.

Bullshyt judge has no issue killing black wealth through child support.

Black wealth is not affected by child support. Stop.

I cant respect any woman books who has a black man on child support.

In systematic white supremacy u have to take precautions.

Putting black men on cs hinders his life tremendously

And also many cs cases are wit a bitter woman.

Don't get her pregnant if you can't afford a child, simple.

It’s not real wealth. They’re just more likely to buy houses and black couples largely don’t. The numbers don’t add up. How can white people have $100,000 to $200,000 in wealth but also not be able to come up with $1,000 for an emergency expense It’s the house. Two black people might make $60,000 together but they’ll stay in the hood renting or in an apartment. And they’ll be dating. Not married. White people making the same money will buy a mobile home or a small house in a lower class blue collar suburb. And over time the home ownership will show up as wealth when financially they earning similar amounts of money.

note: I understand real estate is wealth but the definition im using is being liquid or as close to cash as possible.

The state and federal governments did a number on Black homeownership in the United States.
I suggest everyone read the book "Race for Profit" by Keeanga-Yamhatta Taylor she talks about just how much racism undermined the Black community.
The sordid history of housing discrimination in America

Now post those Asian stats......... Why is it always comparing black and white? Keep falling for the okie doke

Better yet, post poor Asian community stats versus the upper-middle-class Asian stats.

 

[EndDomination]

Non black women are better are recruiting upward mobile black men. A lot of sisters don't even try because they think a certain pedigree of black men aren't into them. Or maybe that's not what they want initially. A lot of black women getting upset about men they didn't want in the first place.

Same for a lot of Black men.

Well it was gonna be like that but inflation is going to destroy most of that

No, it's not. Inflation rates are not that high.

 

[Uitomy]

Same for a lot of Black men.

No, it's not. Inflation rates are not that high.

They're about to skyrocket, were like 23 trillion in debt and they keep printing

 

[HellRell804]

It's far, far more complicated than that.

Explain...

 

[EndDomination]

They're about to skyrocket, were like 23 trillion in debt and they keep printing

US debt won't affect inflation much, and it doesn't look like lowered interest rates will have much of an effect on inflation either - contrary to Econ 101 wisdom.

 

[Yinny]

...

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

This was a fine post until we got to the red.

Why do you insist on telling people what it is you think they want?

Because it's important that people know how they are being heard and percieved. If you don't think men should get equal say without equal responsibility, why for someone arguing for that? You want to have a "real" conversation but don't want to be held accountable for the things you say and do.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

US debt won't affect inflation much, and it doesn't look like lowered interest rates will have much of an effect on inflation either - contrary to Econ 101 wisdom.

Yea IIRC all the wealth being destroyed factors in too. Printing won't create inflation if wealth and equity are being destroyed at the same time

 

[EndDomination]

Explain...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ers-and-poverty-is-not-as-simple-as-it-seems/
http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/hendren/files/trends_in_intergenerational_mobility_pdf.pdf

If you care to read the article it does a good job of showing exactly how generational poverty/mobility have an interconnected relationship beyond the traditional "welfare broke up the black family, single mothers, etc.)

The massive loss in wealth, as well as options to build wealth for AAs, is directly tied to the capital/labor ratio - and not single parenthood. Yes, household income for AAs is going to be lower when there is only one parent in the household, but poorer people marry at a lower rate - and with the break-up of unions, the massive manufacturing shift overseas, the increase in mass incarceration and the cutting of funding for community resources, public education, and grant programs that allow mobility - the problem is purely economic.

And "economic" in this case is also tied to more than just the literal job one has, but the connected culture it fosters, which is why the communities where Black single parenthood is at its highest, are also the areas where class mobility is the lowest. I.e. Black men and Black women are stuck without many options to move up.

Shaming for OOW children was not the reason why it was lower in the past, and the increase in single parenthood in White communities without the decrease in White wealth is a showing of how little the two are related.

This is all to say: single parenthood is a symptom of a massive race and class issue here in the US - it is not the cause.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Often times in life, doing what's productive and right is not what feels good.

Having sexual restraint and focusing on building wealth, communities and families is what's needed.

fukking with reckless abandon and then crying over the consequences you knew would come from it is not. And that's not aimed at one gender or another. If people would make good decisions and hold themselves accountable a lot of problems would go away.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

Nothing said after "white supremacy is damn near dead" means anything.

The absolute lions share of wealth in the US, and worldwide, is held by Whites.

Every system is designed by whites, with whites in mind.

The entire neocolonial control of the "third world" is in the hands of whites, save for China *slowly* entering the foray.

Everything from the lowering of Black property values, to mass-incarceration, to the broken public education system for Black children, to the nonexistent social safety net is due to White supremacy.

All those problems are economic. And could be solved if black folks had some collective vision and fukking dicipline.

Show me the coalition of whites stopping nikkas from becoming real estate agents.

Where is the group of whites forcing young men into foolishness at a young age.

nikkas can download khan academy and learn anything to a collegiate level.

And dont need a safety net if you dont fukk up.

Nikkas could legitimately work around every obstacle in front of them. But steady complaining about white folks money they aint gonna inherit. Hoe shyt.


Folks want things to get better but dont want to change.

Like what is stopping black people from taking white peoples systems applying them to black people and benefitting. Thats what china did.

In 1950 they were the worlds hoe. The japanese had been fukking their women as war prostitutes and the west had them working for peanuts to make cheap goods. Now they about to be a world superpower.

Black folks problem is mental. You got nikkas outchea glorifying poverty. You got nikkas worshipping white jeseus. Got black women telling folks they cant fukk with stable men. Got nikkas living on couches as house husbands giving advice on building shyt.

White folks cant stop china/russia from fukking with them. Can barely keep they economy afloat. Committing suicide to the highest degree and OD like they trying see the wizard.

But somehow they got enough energy to keep they foot on our necks. Really?

If thats the case we some hoes for real.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

If thats the case we some hoes for real.

Stop waiting for everyone else to do it. Be the agent of change you want to see and an example for others to follow

 

[Eddy Gordo]

Stop waiting for everyone else to do it. Be the agent of change you want to see and an example for others to follow

No

 

[HellRell804]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ers-and-poverty-is-not-as-simple-as-it-seems/
http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/hendren/files/trends_in_intergenerational_mobility_pdf.pdf

If you care to read the article it does a good job of showing exactly how generational poverty/mobility have an interconnected relationship beyond the traditional "welfare broke up the black family, single mothers, etc.)

The massive loss in wealth, as well as options to build wealth for AAs, is directly tied to the capital/labor ratio - and not single parenthood. Yes, household income for AAs is going to be lower when there is only one parent in the household, but poorer people marry at a lower rate - and with the break-up of unions, the massive manufacturing shift overseas, the increase in mass incarceration and the cutting of funding for community resources, public education, and grant programs that allow mobility - the problem is purely economic.

And "economic" in this case is also tied to more than just the literal job one has, but the connected culture it fosters, which is why the communities where Black single parenthood is at its highest, are also the areas where class mobility is the lowest. I.e. Black men and Black women are stuck without many options to move up.

Shaming for OOW children was not the reason why it was lower in the past, and the increase in single parenthood in White communities without the decrease in White wealth is a showing of how little the two are related.

This is all to say: single parenthood is a symptom of a massive race and class issue here in the US - it is not the cause.

I read the article and it didn't really have an explanation. It seems like it was written so that those who support people engaging in reckless behavior can point to it and say "see it's not you"

Beyond the babble of "academics" its basic math that a home with 2 working parents will accumulate more wealth than a home being ran by 1 woman or 2 parents maintaining separate homes with the father also contributing a percentage of his income to the mother.

If we factor in rent alone, let's just say each parents rent is $1000 a month for a 2 bedroom since we're talking about the lower classes, that's 12000 dollars a year that could be saved if they lived together. If the parents are married theres no need to get an extra bedroom so the same rent would apply.

So $12,000 a year over 18 years is $216,000 saved. More than enough to pay for college or for a home to be paid off increasing wealth.

And that's not even factoring in the other bills that come with maintaining 2 separate households.

All in all the entire black/white wealth gap (I wanna say it's around $400,000) could be attributed to parents either raising children alone on an insufficient income or 2 parents maintaining separate homes eating away any possible accumulation of wealth for the child(ren).