Single mothers are way poorer than I thought.

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When is it going to be the norm to accept personable accountability ?

bad choices = bad results

I’ve never met a solid female that got played by a man, to never be able to recover and get a solid man afterward. Even when they had babies.
 

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What does any of this have to do with regular dudes avoiding child support?

That wasn't what we were discussing at all. We were discussing children being born to single mothers and the negative financial effects.

I mentioned that women have to be taught to avoid the type of men that will knock them up and leave them to struggle financially. The best way to do that is to obtain commitment before having sex. After a few failed attempts to get the p*ssy these men will give up and move on to the next target. They're definitely not willing to talk to you for a year and marry you just to get the draws. Men don't like government in their business so when we put it in law its serious, remember women file for 70% of divorces, men are usually in it for the long haul.

So you combine those 2 factors, making him wait (giving you time to gauge his genuine level of interest and enough time to vet him and look for red flags) and making him sign his commitment to you in front of the government and god, and that will give women the best chance to have a relationship with a man who will stick around and do his part to ensure they reap the benefits of marriage.

Now if you want to have a discussion of what men need to look for in a woman they want to marry that's a different conversation. But it's not applicable here because marriage minded men aren't out here spreading their seed all over the world leaving trails of women struggling financially
 
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It’s plenty of sources of rich black men paying crazy amounts of child support. Hell melt ball players and rappers go broke because child support.
:dahell: Those are anecdotes of .2% of the population.

Im asking for aggregate numbers to prove the frankly ridiculous claim that black 'wealth' is being dissipated by child support, especially since bp, in aggregate, have very little wealth to start with.
 

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I disagree bro. I know too many cases of blk women and children getting shytted on by legit scumbags who would not provide any help to their own children. It’s gotta be a case by case basis. My good friend was married for 12 years. They had 5 children together and when she got laid off, he cheated and stopped paying bills. I watched her give plasma to feed her kids and when she finally divorced she tried joint custody but he would not see his own kids to try and control her b/c he didn’t want her to have time to date. Keep in mind he cheated on her and remarried 3 weeks after their divorce was finalized. But the new wife left him too b/c she found emails catching him in lies. He had a job paying 60k and owes 15k in back child support. She has been raising those 4 blk boys and girl with no help. And the kids will tell u themselves that she had never blocked any opportunity for them to see their dad. There are some dudes who are utter scum out here. Bitter blk baby mamas ain’t the only ones ruining lives in our community.

That is terrible.
 

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Having babies with bum ass dudes will do that.

Out there fuccin around with "Dorian" in 2007 because he was swagged out with an '06 Charger and a fresh Abercrombie jumpsuit.

Ignored the fact that he had 3 other baby mommas to tend to.

We make our own luck

My cousin name Dorian b... :mjcry:
 

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I disagree bro. I know too many cases of blk women and children getting shytted on by legit scumbags who would not provide any help to their own children. It’s gotta be a case by case basis. My good friend was married for 12 years. They had 5 children together and when she got laid off, he cheated and stopped paying bills. I watched her give plasma to feed her kids and when she finally divorced she tried joint custody but he would not see his own kids to try and control her b/c he didn’t want her to have time to date. Keep in mind he cheated on her and remarried 3 weeks after their divorce was finalized. But the new wife left him too b/c she found emails catching him in lies. He had a job paying 60k and owes 15k in back child support. She has been raising those 4 blk boys and girl with no help. And the kids will tell u themselves that she had never blocked any opportunity for them to see their dad. There are some dudes who are utter scum out here. Bitter blk baby mamas ain’t the only ones ruining lives in our community.

Choosing poorly works on both ends :francis:
 

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40% of blk women are childless.

Only 4 out of 22 million blk women are single mothers. And roughly 1/2 of those are divorcees. 68% of single moms got multiple baby daddies.
This is not how stats work. You're taking a number that include old women and females under 18. I'm pretty sure number of typical dating age black women 18-40 is about 6 million.
 
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Which is even more reason to be married. You have twice the time, income, and networks to invest in the children.

Its like tennis. Single parents playing a tennis match by themselves. While two parent households playing doubles. A single player vs. two players who has the advantage?

idk why folks insist on playing at a disadvantage.

Oh I agree 100%. They are doing a lot better than us on the financial front........my point is that no one is really doing all that well. White (middle class) wealth is entirely tied to home ownership and it is becoming harder and harder for them to even buy houses without parental help.

Plus, we often buy in black/mixed neighborhoods and there aren't enough of us to drive up demand (and therefore prices) on our homes. Even if black home ownership increased 40%, there'd still be a sizable gap. Random WW has a net worth of $380k.....maybe we check in at $250k or something like that.

If I'm not mistaken, WW and BW have an almost non-existent wage gap. WW are mostly getting by because of WM plus any inherited money. Asians and many Africans go deep into medicine/law/STEM so they make up the gap by just out-earning everyone. Latino households tend to have more people in general so their "household" income is usually higher than ours since we're probably the most likely group to have only one working adult in the house. Every other group almost always has 2 adults, with Latinos easily having 3 sometimes (Tio Jose or Tia Rosita come stay with the family).
 
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Yeah, I've been poor for a good amount of time, finally turning it around at a old age so I'll just say a few things, truth but don't take offense.

If you didn't know how bad single mothers had it, you probably a suburan dude from a 2 parent household, no offense but it's been known, any nikka on the street or any dude who hugs the blocks knows the single mother struggle.

Cities have been ran and built on single mother labor most likely, a large part of south florida is a low income single mother, immigrant threshold that relies on chicks with kids who can't find time to go back to school and raise children and usually have to do one or the other. I worked for years as a security guard, salary about 10-12 most of the employees are black females with kids and no degrees, this ain't nothing new..

Cacs been doing this for years, targeting girls who fukk up and put them in bullshyt jobs, 20 years gone by 20 cent raise a year... it's been known.

We got 10 dollar a hour jobs that got full health and dental and 401, who are these jobs designed for? Keep it 100

I see why some women hate broke dudes and I can't blame them at all when you look at the system, remember DeSantis basically doesn't wanna shut down Florida with the infection, why do you think that is?

They got it hard, very hard, it's important for them to move right at a early age cuz the system is designed to trap them, I will not lie on this.

You got whole companies structured like this, a bunch of 10-15 dollar a hour females, answering phones, or doing whatever...


Damn that is 100% on point.

At my job you can see the split even among black women. The sistas on salary (pretty much anything from $45k up to $250k+++) are all married with kids and living in nice homes....or are young but getting engaged and on that path. The call center sistas getting paid hourly...they do "OK" but you see a lot more single motherhood. Good benefits overall (full health, dental etc), but it's like night and day just going on different floors in the building.
 

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This is not how stats work. You're taking a number that include old women and females under 18. I'm pretty sure number of typical dating age black women 18-40 is about 6 million.
That number includes all single mothers regardless of ages as well. So to disaggregate by age you would need to subtract from the 22 million women and the 4 million moms.
 

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The average child support payment across the board is $400. How much do you think a child cost? $50 a month? Im so confused. Y’all talking about that minuscule amount is enough to break somebody? Do you not know that if you had your child full time, you probably spend 3 times that much per month. shyt, people on CS are actually getting of easy.
 

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That number includes all single mothers regardless of ages as well. So to disaggregate by age you would need to subtract from the 22 million women and the 4 million moms.
So what is the figure for young adults then? There's no point is including women of a certain age, their trajectory isn't changing. The 50 year old single mom is now a single grandmother.
 
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