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@Gil Scott-Heroin DA GAWD ACROSS THE BELLY, I PROVE YOU LOST ALREADY :umad:

Why are you scrambling around trying to change the definitions of things when you're in the wrong?

It makes a difference, because Westbrook is the better finisher (once again failing to take % drop/volume into consideration). And you're wrong again. :umad:
This is really simple, which is why youre desperately trying to throw in smilies, caps lock, all kinds of goofy shyt.

Going by NBA.com's "around the basket" zone, Russ is 53%, CP is 60%. Going by 2 ft or closer, Russ is 60%, CP is 70%. Thats it, discussion over.

This is as simple as 2+2=4...but Im honestly not surprised that you're still struggling.
 

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F*ck it.. I'mma give Paul a pass this game. We got nothing from the SF position today. Barnes Granger Crawford even Collision was trash today
 
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This is really simple, which is why youre desperately trying to throw in smilies, caps lock, all kinds of goofy shyt.

Going by NBA.com's "around the basket" zone, Russ is 53%, CP is 60%. Going by 2 ft or closer, Russ is 60%, CP is 70%. Thats it, discussion over.

This is as simple as 2+2=4...but Im honestly not surprised that you're still struggling.
Once again, playing dumb just to match your CP0 tales. This is a constant problem for you.

Chris Paul:

10/11 season: attempted 144 shots at the rim
11/12 season: attempted 161 shots at the rim
12/13 season: attempted 141 shots at the rim
13/14 season: attempted 109 shots at the rim

Over the last four seasons: 369 makes out of 552 attempts = 66%

Russell Westbrook:

10/11 season: attempted 609 shots at the rim
11/12 season: attempted 489 shots at the rim
12/13 season: attempted 529 shots at the rim
13/14 season: attempted 269 shots at the rim

Over the last four seasons: 1138 makes out of 1896 attempts = 60%

CP may have the higher % at the rim, but when you take into account their volume, it shows how much better Westbrook is of finisher. Westbrook has attempted nearly FOUR times the shots that Paul has, yet there's only a 6% difference in shots made. To put this into perspective - Westbrook made 360 shots at the rim in ONE season, virtually the same amount it took Paul FOUR seasons to do. Going by the volume/% law, Westbrook's numbers are conclusively better - making him the better finisher.

shyt is like the equivalent of:

Prigioni - 46% 3-point shooter from 2.1 attempts per game
Curry - 42% 3-point shooter from 7.9 attempts per game.

But we wouldn't call Prigioni the better 3-pt shooter now would we? :smugfavre:
 

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Once again, playing dumb just to match your CP0 tales. This is a constant problem for you.

Chris Paul:

10/11 season: attempted 144 shots at the rim
11/12 season: attempted 161 shots at the rim
12/13 season: attempted 141 shots at the rim
13/14 season: attempted 109 shots at the rim

Over the last four seasons: 369 makes out of 552 attempts = 66%

Russell Westbrook:

10/11 season: attempted 609 shots at the rim
11/12 season: attempted 489 shots at the rim
12/13 season: attempted 529 shots at the rim
13/14 season: attempted 269 shots at the rim

Over the last four seasons: 1138 makes out of 1896 attempts = 60%

CP may have the higher % at the rim, but when you take into account their volume, it shows how much better Westbrook is of finisher. Westbrook has attempted nearly FOUR times the shots that Paul has, yet there's only a 6% difference in shots made. To put this into perspective - Westbrook made 360 shots at the rim in ONE season, virtually the same amount it took Paul FOUR seasons to do. Going by the volume/% law, Westbrook's numbers are conclusively better - making him the better finisher.

shyt is like the equivalent of:

Prigioni - 46% 3-point shooter from 2.1 attempts per game
Curry - 42% 3-point shooter from 7.9 attempts per game.

But we wouldn't call Prigioni the better 3-pt shooter now would we? :smugfavre:
You love Westbrook cause he tries hard and makes faces and takes a lot of shots at the expense of things like efficiency, team chemistry, etc. You're a Kobe fan, I get that. But taking a ton more attempts at a lower rate is not a good thing. Missing more layups than Chris Paul attempts doesnt mean you're a better finisher than him. Westbrook only has one speed. He doesnt have much of a close game, no floater like CP, etc so the finisher status is skewed if you're purposely limiting it to within 2 feet. Its also resulted in things like Westbrook missing like 50 dunks alone in that same time period.

The volume argument doesnt hold much weight because the number of shots fluctuating hasnt affected either guy's percentages much. Westbrook took a lot less shots within 2 feet this year than prior and his fg% didnt suddenly skyrocket because he took less atttempts.
 
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You love Westbrook cause he tries hard and makes faces and takes a lot of shots at the expense of things like efficiency, team chemistry, etc.
Just like you love CP0 for overdribbling the ball at the expense of ball movement, racking up high-assist totals and guarding his shooting % - also at the expense of winning.

What you fail to realise is, and every other Paul apologist - the very thing YOU claim Westbrook is guilty of (overshooting / shooting when he should pass, overaggressive) to the detriment of the team's win success, is not too dissimilar to how Paul plays the game (overdribbling, passing when he should shoot, walking antonym of aggressive during the first 3 quarters) - either yall don't want to acknowledge it or it's a case of yall not seeing the indirect visuals.

But taking a ton more attempts at a lower rate is not a good thing.
I don't think you understand. It's a difference of 6%, which in line with attempting nearly four times the amount, is more impressive. So are you telling me Curry taking more 3-pt shots than Prigioni and completing at a lower rate is a bad thing too?

Missing more layups than Chris Paul attempts doesnt mean you're a better finisher than him..
He still finishes at the rim better.

Westbrook only has one speed. He doesnt have much of a close game, no floater like CP, etc so the finisher status
He still finishes at the rim better.
so the finisher status is skewed if you're purposely limiting it to within 2 feet. Its also resulted in things like Westbrook missing like 50 dunks alone in that same time period..

He still finishes at the rim better.

The volume argument doesnt hold much weight because the number of shots fluctuating hasnt affected either guy's percentages much..

It does, because if Paul attempted the same amount of shots ATR, he wouldn't be able to keep hitting them at 66% - it's basic probability law. Paul's strengths don't lie in his finishing ability, that's why he only attempts so few throughout a season (yes partly due to the fact he balances out the rest of his shots elsewhere).

Westbrook took a lot less shots within 2 feet this year than prior and his fg% didnt suddenly skyrocket because he took less atttempts.

Once again, you're playing dumb. That's because he missed 30-odd games, it wasn't like he attempted less shots in the games he played in. His attempts at the rim per game are near the same as they were last season, the total is down due to the games he missed.

Use your brain.
 

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Just like you love CP0 for overdribbling the ball at the expense of ball movement, racking up high-assist totals and guarding his shooting % - also at the expense of winning.

What you fail to realise is, and every other Paul apologist - the very thing YOU claim Westbrook is guilty of (overshooting / shooting when he should pass, overaggressive) to the detriment of the team's win success, is not too dissimilar to how Paul plays the game (overdribbling, passing when he should shoot, walking antonym of aggressive during the first 3 quarters) - either yall don't want to acknowledge it or it's a case of yall not seeing the indirect visuals.
Stupid myth perpetuated by stupid posters that have no idea what a point guard is supposed to do and dislike the nature of the position itself because they've been raised on Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant fantasies that say a great player shoots a lot or he isnt great.

Case in point: Your criticism of Paul as a non-aggressive non-scorer despite the fact that he only averages 3 less pts and 1 less made basket than Russ, while creating 4 more made baskets for his team's offense and doing jt all with great efficiency.

In the game today, Chris Paul was more aggressive than anyone (in part because Blake was crippled in terrible foul trouble). CP took more shots than anyone else on either team. He scored more than anyone on either team. He had more assists than anyone on either team. He did NOT overdribble. Yet whats the first thing you do when the buzzer sounds? Run to up a shytty thread as if your fraudulent opinion had somehow been validated. Troll.
 
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