Skip just said CP0 is not a superstar

[jwinfield]

@ lose by 40

Spoiler

them nikkas lost by 60

Denver Nuggets at New Orleans Hornets Box Score, April 27, 2009 | Basketball-Reference.com

at me blocking out the last 20

Edits made.

 

[Street Knowledge]

@ CP3 losing a playoff game by 40

Spoiler

them nikkas lost by 60

Denver Nuggets at New Orleans Hornets Box Score, April 27, 2009 | Basketball-Reference.com

He got killed by Chauncey in that series and shut down by Dahntay Jones

 

[fact]

He is too in his feelings all the time and his ego is way too big for a player that hasn't played in the finals. Most players like that are considered as "on the cusp" of being a true superstar, the way CP0 carries himself and acts like a bytch, you'd think he was at least a 2 times finals MVP

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're saying a whole lot of nothing. I asked you a question, answer it. CP3 doesn't make an impact?

Show me where I said CP3 doesn't have an impact, and not this insecure act of putting words in my mouth by trying to pin the tail on the donkey.....

I'll wait.

What the fukk was The Clippers organization doing before he got there? Other than perpetually losing like they've been doing for their entire existence. And please don't cite Blake Griffin because dude would of been putting up big stats on a bum ass squad. CP3 was the catalyst that brought The Clippers into respectability in very short period of time; completely changed the perception of that organization. Even made that racist shyt head of an owner actually give a fukk about his team. If that's not impact I don't know what that is. CP3 has actually done more as "the man" on his team than Westbrook. He always had KD by his side.

Was his play the adjuvant to 'The Clippers' reaching that status or was it his image? Or was it the fact that the Clippers finally had a proper centerpiece in BG, that they could finally begin to build something - and signing a top-tier PG was just one of the many steps in the right direction? This team would have been still have the Western powerhouse tag if you replaced CP3 with Westbrook, Parker, Curry, Irving, Wall or Lillard (at a push). Or a healthy Deron and Rose too.

Need I remind you (prior to him getting injured):

Clippers had a 22-12 record with CP3 and a 12-5 record without him.
Clippers had a 64% win rate with CP3 and a 70% win rate without him

Does this mean they'd be a better team with Collison running the ship? No, probably not. But what it does show is that the linear style of a 'real PG' provides, isn't the only RIGHT answer to winning nor the fact that romanticizing his attributes as this scale of where every other PG falls short of, is the answer to him being the best PG in the league too. Or the fact the him being the most-skilled PG equates to having the greatest impact on the game either.

CP3 has actually done more as "the man" on his team than Westbrook. He always had KD by his side.

What that may be true, it's not like he's taken any one of those teams on a respectable playoff run to warrant a conclusion that Westbrook isn't capable of matching.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The problem doesn't lie in the idea that CP3 is the best PG in the league (because he certainly has an argument), it's the fact that this immunity cloak that's attached him not only is absent of any fault on his part, but the domino-effect that has led to him being held in this in-the-clouds regard as if he has the silverware to match it.

You've got dudes who keep preaching this bullshyt, as if this cognitive pattern has developed a life of it's own.

 

[Eternal Tecate]

Quick make a thread about it so he gets more attention

 

[Profane]

anyone got that video?

 

[Majestic Pape]

you guys just believe into the hype and place too much emphasis on winning championships when evaluating individual players.
Teams win championships not players.
Just because someone had one bad series against another player but is clearly superior in everyother way that don't make the other guy a better player.
Just because TNT and ESPN tell you that Isaiah is the GOAT PG (outside maybe magic and stockton) doesnt make it true. Go back and watch the playoff games, Isaiah stepped it up in the playoffs too. I give that to him but during the regular season at his BEST he was about as good as Ty Lawson or Kyrie Irving. If those guys had that killer streak and stepped their games up during the playoffs and had the sort of talent and depth on their squads that Isaiah had they would prob be contending for a championship too.
Paul meanwhile is a next level talent.How good were the Pistons in the mid 80s, when Isaiah had his best individual seasons before they got all those other guys.

I hate that people keep pushing this shyt.

Isiah scaled his game BACK so his team could WIN.

Paul really needs to do the same, and he's done it a little better this year. Instead of wanting to control the rock ALL of the time, give it up some and let other guys make plays.

 

[The War Report]

you guys just believe into the hype and place too much emphasis on winning championships when evaluating individual players.
Teams win championships not players.
Just because someone had one bad series against another player but is clearly superior in everyother way that don't make the other guy a better player.
Just because TNT and ESPN tell you that Isaiah is the GOAT PG (outside maybe magic and stockton) doesnt make it true. Go back and watch the playoff games, Isaiah stepped it up in the playoffs too. I give that to him but during the regular season at his BEST he was about as good as Ty Lawson or Kyrie Irving. If those guys had that killer streak and stepped their games up during the playoffs and had the sort of talent and depth on their squads that Isaiah had they would prob be contending for a championship too.
Paul meanwhile is a next level talent.How good were the Pistons in the mid 80s, when Isaiah had his best individual seasons before they got all those other guys.

Are you out of your crack head mind?


DMX, is that you?

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Man Stephen A Smith face need to be a smiley

He was looking like he wanted to fight Skip right then lmao

 

[Ctrl]

This is the second part when they decided to make a segment out of it, and Skip got his info sheets out .

The first part started with them talking about the 30 for 30 episode on the Bad Boys, and Skip saying that Russell Westbrook is the one present-day player he thinks has the mental toughness to hold his own in that era (not including Kobe, Duncan, etc).

Then SAS started adding more current players to the list.

Audio only
Skip to 1:02:00 - 1:09:14

 

[Propaganda]

i don't mind if cp3 gets "superstar" or "best pg" nods but yeah, he probably does deserve more heat than he gets for his lack of playoff success. but at the same time, you'd have to go back to the 80's to find point guards that really led their the team to the promised land...and even then, they (magic and zeke) had STACKED teams. and even before then, it was a super-rarity to have a pg-led championship team...i can't even think of one right now.

that's why i don't really get hyped about squads whose best player is their pg. the odds aren't in their favor.

 

[Draje]

What does LeBron do better than CP3? The only thing LeBron has over CP3 is athleticism.

Score more efficiently and dominantly, command far more defensive attention, finish at the rim, etc.

Paul is obviously the better ball-handler, passer, and better at controlling the pace of game but Lebron is still elite in those aspects on top of being an athletic anomaly with 70 LBS, plus 6 inches, and such.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Jalen Rose was sayign on a podcast that current and former players think much less of Cp3 then the media and fans as a player

When was this? Jalen has said many times that Chris Paul is the 3rd best player in the league after Bron and KD.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

What does LeBron do better than CP3? The only thing LeBron has over CP3 is athleticism.

Compare Westbrook to Lebron James, brehs