Slave owner compensation was still being paid off by British taxpayers in 2015

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Just mind boggling :mjpls:
But in the UK and the US they will fight tooth and nail against reparations.


The Government gave slave owners the equivalent of £308 BILLION in 1833 and we've all only just paid it off

Taxpayers in Bristol in 2015 were still paying off the debt borrowed by the Government to pay millions in ‘compensation’ to the owners of slaves, the Treasury has admitted.

So huge was the £20 million the Government spent in 1833 to reimburse the rich owners of slaves, that it took the taxpayer 182 years to pay it off.

The information was revealed by the Treasury under a Freedom of Information request – but when officials decided to tweet out the revelation, the way they did it sparked such a furious backlash they quickly deleted the tweet.

The Treasury confirmed when the UK Government abolished slavery and banned people from owning slaves in Britain or on Britain’s colonies anywhere in the world, those slave owners received compensation.

Many of the largest plantations which kept the largest number of slaves were owned by some of Bristol’s richest businessmen, and they received the equivalent of millions of pounds in today’s money. Bristol had the highest concentration of people in Britain who owned slaves in 1833 outside of London.
 

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I hate half-assed articles like this.

Thanks for the revelation. Now where's the story? Where's the data? Who are the parties that were receiving the money and what has the money been used for?

Either come correct with a full out expose or leave the real news to someone capable of handling the responsibility.

I want name's of people and businesses in existence right now.
 

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We don't have a rubbing hands smilies?

So they can pay reparations to slave owners, 308 billion dollar worth, but can't pay reparations to actual slaves? Mind you, it's not even slave owners but the children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and great-great-grandchildren of slave owners.

The world is a sick place. :scust:
 

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Poor practice but it did end slavery in a large part of the world. It was also 30 years prior to the US fighting the civil war that cost far more.

That's just from an economic perspective.
 

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I hate half-assed articles like this.

Thanks for the revelation. Now where's the story? Where's the data? Who are the parties that were receiving the money and what has the money been used for?

Either come correct with a full out expose or leave the real news to someone capable of handling the responsibility.

I want name's of people and businesses in existence right now.

Oh you can find that information but it doesn’t see the light of day often. For example,former Prime Minister David Cameron’s family was a beneficiary. The archives still show how many slaves these people owned in the Caribbean and the way they claimed them like chattel.
 

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Oh you can find that information but it doesn’t see the light of day often. For example,former Prime Minister David Cameron’s family was a beneficiary. The archives still show how many slaves these people owned in the Caribbean and the way they claimed them like chattel.

Bro what? I'm at work so I can't go down the internet rabbit hole right now, but you can't say this without dropping a credible link. This is a jaw-dropping bit of info.
 

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Poor practice but it did end slavery in a large part of the world. It was also 30 years prior to the US fighting the civil war that cost far more.

That's just from an economic perspective.

Well they could have ended it in 1968. Just sayin.
 

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Bro what? I'm at work so I can't go down the internet rabbit hole right now, but you can't say this without dropping a credible link. This is a jaw-dropping bit of info.

Sorry man, when it came out practically every wealthy UK cac could be traced to slaveowner ancestry so it wasn't as surprising as that I guess.

What was surprising for me was Ainsley Harriot, a black TV chef in the UK, he had slaveowner descendants! The rabbit hole got deep.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/how-do-we-know-david-cameron-has-slave-owning-ancestor
How do we know David Cameron has slave owners in family background?


Follow the money: investigators trace forgotten story of Britain's slave trade


NATIONAL ARCHIVES - Slavery or slave owners

After its abolition the slave trade – which the writer and former slave Olaudah Equiano described as "entirely a war with the heart of man" – rapidly became a simple matter of economics for the British government. Thousands lined up to be compensated and the £20m paid to slave-owners to cover the loss of their "property" was equivalent to almost half the Treasury's annual budget. It equates to around £16.5bn in today's money.

A sizeable chunk of the population received compensation, including the families of some very famous Britons. The records show George Orwell's great-grandfather, Charles Blair, claimed £4,442 on 30 November 1835 for 218 slaves on the East Prospect estate on Jamaica.

But according to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, the Blair family wealth did not trickle down the generations: "Charles Blair … a Scot, had been a rich man, a plantation and slave-owner in Jamaica who had married into the English aristocracy; the money had run out by [Orwell's father] Richard Blair's time."

Also among the beneficiaries of slave compensation were the ancestors of Sir Peter Bazalgette, the TV producer and chair of the Arts Council England. Evelyn Bazalgette is shown to have claimed £7,350 for 420 slaves on his Jamaican estates. David Cameron, Graham Greene and the TV chef Ainsley Harriott are also descended from compensated slave-owners.

However, it was not just individuals and families who benefited from the enormous payout. As well as paying for the building of dozens of country houses and art collections, the money also helped fund railways, museums, insurance companies, mining firms, merchants and banks.

Among the names the UCL project has turned up are the Bank of England, Lloyds, Baring Brothers and P&O.
 
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