Smarks Praising Smackdown Over RAW Prove They Don't Know What They Want

[Daniel.]

Beyond continuity, Smackdown seems to have the one thing RAW doesn't - people you can book they can feel comfortable booking to lose. There is not a soul on there that is untouchable and it gives them the freedom to do whatever the hell they want and not feel like they've made someone weak.

Cena can even loss and they run with the getting older, time is up stuff. The feeling that the belt is just sitting around waiting for Cena diminishes by the day and its the first time I don't mind seeing him in the title picture.

RAW on the other hand has so many guys they're trying to protect that it makes everyone else that could use the wins look weak because the wins never feel legit. Roman, Rollins - all are in a position where they're made men but have been written into a corner where they can't lose. Cass, Strowman (who's grown on me), Charlotte, Nia, Cesaro and Sheamus' run HAD to end in victory or it was all for nothing.

As such....Owens looks like shyt. Banks and Bailey look like shyt. New Day is Teflon but The Club has looked horrible. Rusev and Zayn are in a good enough place to take the nonsense and really it's because they're Smackdown guys on RAW. There isn't a balance of vulnerability and you either get a situation where youre pushing someone people don't like in spite of someone people do, or you're pushing someone people can get behind but eventually turn on due to limitations (in ring, character or otherwise.

They've spent so much time and effort trying to build guys up that they fear making them vulnerable. It's what makes Stephanie even worse - this unstoppable force/immovable object booking that results in the same shyt over and over.

I personally watch RAW on Monday's out of habit and make an effort to watch SD (live or recorded) because I appreciate what they're doing. RAW won't and can't get better until they can make guys vulnerable and rid that same old shyt stench they have. Both shows do a lot of rehashing matches, but it's a whole hell of a lot easier when you haven't tied your hands together on what to do. They have so much more freedom and liberty with the roster because a lot of the guys are damaged from previous roles and can be repaired, or don't have this pressure to be "next".

 

[Daniel.]

That's not all to say they can't lose, to clarify - just that their mystique is tied to victory. You have Charlotte with her Ms. PPV thing they've built up, Rollins to reclaim his throne and get back at the Authority, Roman being next, Strowman being undefeated - relying on this type of shyt hurts the rest of your roster. Brock can take a minute loss to Goldberg easily - if you one day make Roman tap or have Charlotte lose on PPV or have Strowman lose, a lot of what their character gets tied to gets hurt. They'd all survive it with good writing, Charlotte especially, but it's contingent on the follow through. They're so content (lazy) to have all these Superman characters running around it makes everyone else look worse for it. Breaking imaginary records or setting new standards is seemingly a thing yet oddly out of everyone they did that for, New Day is a prime example of building people up, having them look vulnerable and still succeeding and looking good for it. Yet they don't follow their own template at all.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

It's cool to hate on raw.

It's been the agenda for several years now especially going back to the nxt/raw love/hate comparisons.

A lot of hypocrisy involved when it comes to these marks.

The legend known as Goldberg comes back for a short stint marks get uptight. A bum wrestler by the name of Ellsworth comes in and get title shots and several victories over wwe champ, the marks are like

Marks talk crap about the universal title, but never acknowledge the fact that every single title match for that belt has been good to great. Meanwhile Smackdown can get away with that trash title matches that took place between Ambrose/Dolph one and the marks will be like.

Marks complain about how Cesaro and sammi is being underutilized on raw and would be better on smackdown. Ironically kalisto, Corbin, and Apollo crews are doing nothing on smackdown.

Marks say smackdown has a better female division. Complains about Charlotte/Sasha rivalry even tho they are putting on good to great matches, making history ,and probably makes up most of the classic matches that the women wrestling has had in the wwe recently.

Marks complain about raw being 3 hours. Ironically the majority of the time raw pulls in better ratings with the same 3 hours that marks say is a disadvantage on top of competing with a bunch of other heavy hitters on TV.

Marks complain about reigns even though he's one of the most consistent workers in the wwe let along the raw roster. Still using him as a scapegoat for something that happened 2 years ago and wasn't even his fault.

Marks hate on big Cass even tho he is doing his job in one of the hottest tag teams in the company and has shown flashes of main event potential.

Marks complain about the cruiserweight division even tho they were begging for its return for years.

The point is that a lot of marks will natural complainers, hypocrites, and self centered unappreciative wrestling fans. Has absolutely nothing to do with RAW.

 

[prophecypro]

. That is his point.

His point was that his point was meaningless?

 

[AquaCityBoy]

His point was that his point was meaningless?

Did you even watch the video? His whole point was the very thing you mentioned in your earlier post.

You're basically agreeing with him, then calling his point meaningless.

 

[Skyjacker]

Op made a thread about a 2 month old video with outdated points.

 

[prophecypro]

Did you even watch the video? His whole point was the very thing you mentioned in your earlier post.

You're basically agreeing with him, then calling his point meaningless.

His argument is that smarks dont know what they want and my point was they clearly do for the same reasons he likes it, making the whole video moot

 

[AquaCityBoy]

His argument is that smarks dont know what they want and my point was they clearly do for the same reasons he likes it, making the whole video moot

Yeah, you didn't watch the video.

 

[prophecypro]

Yeah, you didn't watch the video.

Maybe you just interpreted the video wrong

 

[Skyjacker]

Smackdown is far from perfect seeing as they frequently focus on too much on short term stories. Remember when Heath Slater was the hottest thing on Smackdown?Becky Lynch has been incredibly misused and badly booked since she became champ.

 

[Daniel.]

Smackdown is far from perfect seeing as they frequently focus on too much on short term stories. Remember when Heath Slater was the hottest thing on Smackdown?Becky Lynch has been incredibly misused and badly booked since she became champ.

What I think is crazy is somehow it works. I'm a big proponent for long term planning, long term story telling, but it has to also consider the payoff and the fallout. Right now, if SD is focused on the short term, RAW is focused on the long term, to a fault. They're so focused on making guys become "greats" with "legendary" matches that it ruins the storytelling all together. I shouldn't have to be told how amazing a match is, or a stable was, I should walk away feeling it. And yet I never do because I feel like I'm being sold it versus being able to enjoy it.

That speaks to the guy in the videos post of having 5* matches for the fukk of it. I don't watch UFC or boxing because no matter how good a fight is, if I'm not invested in the outcome or who's in the match, I don't give a shyt. My interest in Charlotte /Sasha waned the more I realized they weren't doing anything but pushing the Charlotte agenda at Sasha's expense and to spite fans . I completely skip Reigns main events or matches in general because I know the outcome already. Nothing interesting will come of it. The matches may objectively be good but my interest gets taken out by almost how desperately good they want it to be.

Meanwhile I couldn't give a shot about Dolph but because there are consequences and build up I'll watch just to see what they will do. That slight pull of interest can help change a mindset about someone. SD may operate in the short term, but that short term interest quickly becomes long term because they have the freedom to reset without damaging. RAW? Not to much. It'd undermine everything they've been trying to do and and oddly, that's exactly what they need. Let legend happen, don't try to create it.

 

[dh86]

Smackdown is far from perfect seeing as they frequently focus on too much on short term stories. Remember when Heath Slater was the hottest thing on Smackdown?Becky Lynch has been incredibly misused and badly booked since she became champ.

Both characters have been far better off. Heath slater actually got skits and video packages. Becky has a fleshed out character now and a feud centered around her.

 

[Skyjacker]

Both characters have been far better off. Heath slater actually got skits and video packages. Becky has a fleshed out character now and a feud centered around her.

Slater had no follow-up after he reached his goal.

Becky didn't get much of a follow-up after winning the big one. The only difference between before split with Becky and after is they put her already well- defined character into a gimmick so it's more identifiable. I really wish she got a clean title defense before losing the title.