FRIED MASON
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Time for @Ugo Ogugwa to get that hit record.
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SMH... Youtube views will now count towards Billboard Hot 100 positions
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This is how poeple listen to music now
5 yrs ago you would have been the dude to say "Itunes sales don't count!"
The world is changing.
Plus at the end of the day, what does Billboard matter anyway? Who gave a fukk about their rankings yesterday lmao. Billboard top 40 has been, to me at least, a general indicator of the worst music had to offer, this doesn't change that. I don't see what the big deal is
That's a hit record breh.VerbalIntercourse
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Harlem Shake is trash. But the thing is, Gangnam Style at least got radio airplay and sold units. Harlem Shake ain't done shyt but have a bunch of videos for it and it's #1 . And not even the whole song. It got to #1 b/c of 30 seconds of it.
Harlem Shake got 2 spins on the radio the week before it got #1 . TWO spins.
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about music on YouTube. Not just meme videos. I do think it's unfair to count meme videos.
Baauer "harlem shake" has measly 6 million views. I don't think people really like the song. I like that Brazilian sound though.
When you get the super-radio smash hits. It doesn't seem off from the youtube plays.
500 million.
833 million
110 million
317 million
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Love sosa has respectable view count, and it got radio play.
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Tuc2DaBoot
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This is how poeple listen to music now
5 yrs ago you would have been the dude to say "Itunes sales don't count!"
The world is changing.
Plus at the end of the day, what does Billboard matter anyway? Who gave a fukk about their rankings yesterday lmao. Billboard top 40 has been, to me at least, a general indicator of the worst music had to offer, this doesn't change that. I don't see what the big deal is
You're not getting it. People don't give a damn about the song. They give a damn about their own popularity of dancing to it. Two of the most popular videos of the song is one of a European army dancing to it and a washing machine shaking out of control.
THOSE kind of videos should not be counted, period. The original video that the artist posted or the VEVO video? Sure. But some 10 year old kid and his friends bouncing in a trampoline that got 8 million views is the reason it's #1 ? You don't see how silly that sounds?
If anything, now only do indie artists have to do more than make good music, they have to have a catchy, creative, copyable video or they are not seeing any chart success. YOU may not care about that, but a lot of artists do.
VerbalIntercourse
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It may be a general indicator of the worst music to YOU, and all the hipster/backpack elitists in the world.
But to the Majority of people (especially females), it's not. The industry has certainly figured out the winning formula, and I don't see why they should cater to people like you when all the great underground labels have all went bankrupt or no longer exist.
I went to a raekwon concert when OBFCL2 dropped and there was only 50 people there tops. Nobody really gives a fukk about any of that shyt. It is all given props in some fake online community of no more than 1 million participants world-wide.
log off, Get out there and meet people. You'll be surprised at what you find.
You're not getting it. People don't give a damn about the song. They give a damn about their own popularity of dancing to it. Two of the most popular videos of the song is one of a European army dancing to it and a washing machine shaking out of control.
THOSE kind of videos should not be counted, period. The original video that the artist posted or the VEVO video? Sure. But some 10 year old kid and his friends bouncing in a trampoline that got 8 million views is the reason it's #1 ? You don't see how silly that sounds?
Nobody would be watching those vids if not for the song... the song + its meme are still the main draw
Popular artists have always had some help from shyt outside the music. Most female pop stars are attractive. Artists like Prince and David Bowie played up controversy in their time to accentuate their buzz. Not to mention, even before this, artists used YT to build buzz. For fukks sake Psy is the king of this. Everything you are complaining about was in play well before Billboard made this change, and in any case Billboard hasn't been relevant to "indie fans" for decades. This doesn't make me angry because I've never cared what was at the top of the Billboard charts.
Tuc2DaBoot
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And that's the problem people have with Billboard. Billboard IS counting the meme videos. That's why the song got 103 million views for streaming this past week factored in. Billboard is trying too hard to "reward" popularity without factoring in how easy it is to manipulate that system. What if artists (or even labels) started paying people to make memes and funny videos of their songs instead of radio play? A music artist shouldn't have to go out and appeal to the ADD/troll/meme aspect of the internet in order to see success. Like @jerzboy said, this will still allow for payola but in a different way. As long as they count meme videos, it's still not a good system.
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I'm not saying Billboard should cater to me. I don't care what Billboard says or thinks and this change doesn't affect that. @Tuc2DaBoot for some reason does, even though they have been a goofy + terrible system for decades. I didn't give a shyt about Billboard yesterday and I don't today.
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Tuc2DaBoot
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Psy wasn't #1 for this though. That's the point. He never hit #1 because he never dominated radio with the song.
Now an artist is #1 without any relevant radio play. No one has even heard the whole 3 minutes of this song.
And at the end of the day, YOU don't care. But artists who work hard in their craft WANT success and the charts are still a form of proof for that. And no, songs to meme videos were not #1 before now. Even Soulja Boy's Crank That became #1 because of SALES and radio play. Not 103 million views of 13 year olds chasing trends.
Theres many measures of success. Billboard charts are a measure of success in popularity. Most artists, especially indie artists, will never hit the billboard rankings, so why you feel its such an important metric for artists is beyond me. Theres millions of musicians and this change affects maybe 1000... why the outrage?
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VerbalIntercourse
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Exactly. These people weren't "perfecting their craft" or w/e, they were making music for the lowest common denominator. And that is what the Billboard charts are connected to.