"...snatch Cam and its a Wrap..

[FreshAIG]

that was a shot at mase

No it wasn't. It was a shot at Meeno, who got shot out the cannon in the "Harlem World" video, and who had the song "I'm That nikka" at the time, Meeno dissed Jay prior and Jay replied on that song.

 

[fact]

that was a shot at mase

no

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

What was also weird about the whole thing is Cam was Un's man, Un was Big's man and partner, Big loved Cam's rapping wanted him for the commision, but the mafia didn't fukk with Cam at all, in any way. I always wondered what the fall out was

C gutta who was BIG dude and with Jr. mafia was Cripped out

Jim jones says Cgutta kept set tripping on him and cam cause of thier fosterville bloods connection

 

[Art Barr]

How about "What you think of that"? I know it was a guised Nas diss, but that flow was thats what im saying, at that point he could have held his own with anybody.

if he could have held his own...
he would not have had a background battling that was filled with missing videos.
or sauce and jaz help him, from getting massacred by LL.
nor, would he have ducked fatjoe, nas, and p.
jay owns a label.
just off that alone,....
he could have pressed up a diss, immediately to body the trio.
plus, make them look inferior via perception.
as the trio, did not have a label.
to green light a surprise diss.
plus, jay was playing them like mixtapes were for bums.
which is why superugly failed off sheer symantics.

on top of the quality of ether.



art barr

 

[FreshAIG]

C gutta who was BIG dude and with Jr. mafia was Cripped out

Jim jones says Cgutta kept set tripping on him and cam cause of thier fosterville bloods connection

Oh wait you're right it was Gutta not D-Roc. I forgot which one it was.

 

[fact]

if he could have held his own...
he would not have had a background battling that was filled with missing videos.
or sauce and jaz help him, from getting massacred by LL.


art barr

If you know of fact that LL was willing to battle Jay, then tell it, all the stories from Jay's camp has LL unwilling to battle for whatever reason. And it is well documented by Sauce, Dame, all them dudes that Jay wasnt scared to go battle dudes

 

[SubLyminalz]

Disagree, during the beef, Jay was still spitting and at the height of his confidence in ryhming

naw jay didnt want it with none of the lox honestly, he threw sigel and them sp nikkas at them to give them some shine and let them capitalize off of it so it could be more even, jay was one of the top dogs in the game at that point.

he thought nas was finished which is why he came at him.

 

[fact]

naw jay didnt want it with none of the lox honestly, he threw sigel and them sp nikkas at them to give them some shine and let them capitalize off of it so it could be more even, jay was one of the top dogs in the game at that point.

he thought nas was finished which is why he came at him.

Again, I disagree.

 

[SubLyminalz]

Again, I disagree.

your clearly in denial then, and this is coming from a jay stan.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Oh wait you're right it was Gutta not D-Roc. I forgot which one it was.

Yeah BIG was the glue that kept things civil

but once he died...c gutta and his crips and jim jones and his bloods became fullblown beef

Jim Jones spoke on how it reached its height in hawaii on the NO WAY OUT TOUR with DIDDY and MASE

With C GUTTA trying to poke nikkas while out on jet skis

jay got thrown in the mix by asdociation

cause him and c gutta was cool based on thier mutual relationship with BIG and Haitian Jack

thats why jim jones always tells that story of how Jack manhandled Jay Z out west during the tour

jim jones and cam started putting more bloods on to travel with them

jay and dame complained about lack of perfomance time and SECURITY amongst all these gangbangers

All of a sudden JAY leaves the tour

and MASE refrences it on IM NOT A KILLA

"all summer long YOU been ducking piru"

 

[FreshAIG]

Yeah BIG was the glue that kept things civil

but once he died...c gutta and his crips and jim jones and his bloods became fullblown beef

Jim Jones spoke on how it reached its height in hawaii on the NO WAY OUT TOUR with DIDDY and MASE

With C GUTTA trying to poke nikkas while out on jet skis

jay got thrown in the mix by asdociation

cause him and c gutta was cool based on thier mutual relationship with BIG and Haitian Jack

thats why jim jones always tells that story of how Jack manhandled Jay Z out west during the tour

jim jones and cam started putting more bloods on to travel with them

jay and dame complained about lack of perfomance time and SECURITY amongst all these gangbangers

All of a sudden JAY leaves the tour

and MASE refrences it on IM NOT A KILLA

"all summer long YOU been ducking piru"

all facts. Good ole days of rap lol

 

[Houston911]

Yeah BIG was the glue that kept things civil

but once he died...c gutta and his crips and jim jones and his bloods became fullblown beef

Jim Jones spoke on how it reached its height in hawaii on the NO WAY OUT TOUR with DIDDY and MASE

With C GUTTA trying to poke nikkas while out on jet skis

jay got thrown in the mix by asdociation

cause him and c gutta was cool based on thier mutual relationship with BIG and Haitian Jack

thats why jim jones always tells that story of how Jack manhandled Jay Z out west during the tour

jim jones and cam started putting more bloods on to travel with them

jay and dame complained about lack of perfomance time and SECURITY amongst all these gangbangers

All of a sudden JAY leaves the tour

and MASE refrences it on IM NOT A KILLA

"all summer long YOU been ducking piru"

never saw this. link?

 

[ATearInMyEye]

Yeah BIG was the glue that kept things civil

but once he died...c gutta and his crips and jim jones and his bloods became fullblown beef

Jim Jones spoke on how it reached its height in hawaii on the NO WAY OUT TOUR with DIDDY and MASE

With C GUTTA trying to poke nikkas while out on jet skis

jay got thrown in the mix by asdociation

cause him and c gutta was cool based on thier mutual relationship with BIG and Haitian Jack

thats why jim jones always tells that story of how Jack manhandled Jay Z out west during the tour

jim jones and cam started putting more bloods on to travel with them

jay and dame complained about lack of perfomance time and SECURITY amongst all these gangbangers

All of a sudden JAY leaves the tour

and MASE refrences it on IM NOT A KILLA

"all summer long YOU been ducking piru"

Prime East Coast Hip Hop play by play ??

 

[Art Barr]

If you know of fact that LL was willing to battle Jay, then tell it, all the stories from Jay's camp has LL unwilling to battle for whatever reason. And it is well documented by Sauce, Dame, all them dudes that Jay wasnt scared to go battle dudes

anybody can battle some lower tier guy.
when, jay got to heavyweights...
like x, ll etc.....

there is always some extra story.
I know this battle shyt breh....
ain't no extra stories, or issues like jay had.
if he was a beast.


if ya guys have to piggyback and triple threat battle ll, to keep him from massacre'n jay.
that speaks volumes..
the vid with X, will never be seen cause he got served.
he ducked jada........
he ducked jaz-o, and got served.
he got served by nas.
he got massacred by cam, so bad.....
in every possible way, imaginable to get served.

anybody can beat some amateur,....
real battle dudes don't duck heavyweight battles, and don't have a history of losses or extra shyt.


art barr

 

[Polygraph steez]

That line was for Jadakiss

But Cam and Jay never really fukked with each other. You have to remember, Un was Cam's nikka and Jay had him stabbed. They weren't ever cool like that.

and I don't think this specific line was a shot necessarily. I think the first shot was taken by Juelz with the "Two shots for Cam taking over the Roc"

How you figure that's a shot at Kiss?