So According to Beyoncé fans Michael Jordan is not a Global Icon And Bey is a bigger name

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Basketball just isn't big like that outside of North America and a few pockets of Europe/Asia.

No doubt Jordan is huge but I'm inclined to think Beyonce is better known globally (and not just recognised).
 

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Basketball just isn't big like that outside of North America and a few pockets of Europe/Asia.

No doubt Jordan is huge but I'm inclined to think Beyonce is better known globally (and not just recognised).
Beyoncé is not that popular overseas breh
 
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Question... Does Beyoncé even have a diamond album? :jbhmm:

Comparing her to the GOATS when she ain’t even got the facts to back it up.

Yes Beyoncé is a phenomenal performer but people need to stop with the comparisons to artists who were literally at the top of the game and the competition at the time couldn’t even touch them.

Can someone say one thing Beyoncé has accomplished more than anyone else in her timeframe as an artist/entertainer that makes her worthy of being in the same conversation as the GOATs?
 

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Good point. What is her legacy outside of herself?

Beyond that....MJ can be called the GOAT and no one would seriously question you.

Can we honestly call Bey the GOAT singer? This includes men AND women. Does she top Michael Jackson or Elvis on popularity, raw talent etc? Whitney was a better singer along with Aretha. I can't say that Bey is objectively better than Sam Cooke as a singer.

In terms of sustained success she's definitely on the short list but you can't say she's clearly the best singer or dancer so her status is more about achievement than a single defining trait. Her talent is top notch but many of her songs are forgettable....mainly recently.....she does have plenty if you go back a bit.

Would argue she is one of the most gifted vocalist to debut the last 40 or so years

Who's the better singer is largely subjective but she objectively has a larger vocal range than Sam equal to that of Aretha ....

One of the greatest female performers to do it... she has the full package singing, dancing, stage presence

Shes made more touring or just as much as Tina Turner, Celine Dion, Janet Jackson at only the age of 38

Sold millions and millions of records

One of the top 10 artist with the most weeks at #1 on the billboard hot 100

Is a big humanitarian....changed the way albums dropped one could argue...

For me she is of the same vein as a Tina or Whitney (to a lesser extent)...
 
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