So are yall starting to get tired of Lesnar running through the roster

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I hope one day we get a "new" brock lesnar and lesnar passes the torch like taker did to him but he prob wont
 

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Good question. :jbhmm:

I have to say I like him as is, simply because he's a different character.

He's a tweener at a time when there aren't many left on the roster, and his booking (although pretty one dimensional) generally means something - whereas everyone else just gets 'Even Stevens'd out.

It feels like people who are getting heat/ getting over on the roster like New Day and Owens, did so despite the way they were booked. Not because of it.

Getting rid of 'The Beast' that runs through the whole roster doesn't really accomplish anything, because they haven't built most of the roster to be anything other than cannon fodder.

This Reigns 'One Versus All' storyline probably won't help matters either....:patrice:


With that said though, the episode of 'Raw' where he demanded the subtitle 'Starring Brock Lesnar' be added to the show's name, and then them actually doing it the next week, will never stop being funny to me:

 
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This what im talking about this beast incarnate booking got yall thinking he could effortlessly take out a group of legit fighters/wrestlers/athletes :francis:

Not that lesnar isnt a legit fighter too but they making the roster look like a group of clowns every week :russell:


Who said he could take all of them at once? My post was about how he dominates everybody in general. If you think he should be getting handled by the likes Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods, I don't know what to tell you. Austin used to literally come in Royal Rumble-like scrambles at the end of Raw/SD and stun 24 guys in a row while they waited in line for their turn.

I've said on multiple occasions and even in this thread that guys like Rusev, Sheamus, Harper and even Del Rio/Owens should be formidable 1 on 1 opponents for him and could produce great matches (and even win) IF they were booked and built up properly.

The problem is people around here tend to focus on the effect (i.e. just what is seen on the screen in a single segment) rather than the problems that caused the issue in the first place. Some of y'all are up in arms about him blowing through guys (in a battle royal trope that has been used for literally 20 years) rather than getting pissed that nobody else is getting anywhere in the months between his appearances on the show. Monday was fine because it was the return of a big name building up a big match that's built for a dominant guy like him. The only criticism would have been to use more lower level heels like Miz and keep your top heels (if they even exist) out of his way. If he was doing this every week, there would be a major problem, but he's rarely even on the show (hence the announcement about him being there this past week).

And for people who want him to randomly start losing, how does it benefit them for Brock, who's the only guy on the roster whose matches and appearances still have a big time feel (and who comes with a big paycheck), to get beat down when the only thing it will accomplish is taking away his mystique and allure? They should definitely be keeping him away from the full roster, but still letting him wreck shop to keep his appeal, while simultaneously building up guys (like the ones I mentioned) who believably can go toe with him, and then let one of those guys beat him.
 
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Y'all keep saying booking is the problem but if someone remotely gets booked like Lesnar you all have a problem with it.

Example Rusev, you all hated Rusev when he debuted. Me and maybe 2 other people were fans of his.
Rusev is on the roster every week though :dwillhuh:
 
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so basically there shouldnt be a monster on the roster if he's no part time.....
So basically there shouldn't be a monster at all (regardless of full/part time status) since the basis of most of the arguments in here is that he's frequently doing this (running through the roster) every week even though there are weeks to months between his appearances. Apparently much of the issue with this (and other strong booking that's been argued) is the frequency at which they occur.
 
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Rusev is on the roster every week though :dwillhuh:

Let me ask you (and everyone else) this.... How would you fix Lesnar right now without fixing how everyone else is booked?
simple, stop no selling damn near every thing.

should someone just run through lesnar, of course not. but at least have their offense look credible.
 

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simple, stop no selling damn near every thing.

He got his ass whipped in a back and forth match with a 50 year old Taker in his last match

Prior to that he got kicked in the dikk for failing to let go of Taker's purse and lost

Prior to that he dominated Reigns at Mania (until Roman turned it around and had him "beat" before the Rollins cash-in)

Before that he beat the shyt out of a concussed Taker at Mania (which went with the storyline and set up his Beast run)

Before that he beat the shyt out of Cena, much to the delight of EVERYBODY, and even got a shirt out of the deal.

Before that he was in a feud where he was getting beat up by fellow part timer HHH in a back and forth series of matches

And when he debuted, he lost to Cena in a back and forth match.

And somewhere in there was the triple threat where he got put through a table and was knocked out for about 8 minutes.

:dame: or are you just referencing his run-in from last week where he finally interacted with a non-established full timer not named Reigns?
 
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He got his ass whipped in a back and forth with a 50 year old Taker in his last match

Prior to that he dominated Reigns at Mania (until Roman turned it around and had him "beat" before the Rollins cash-in)

Before that he beat the shyt out of a concussed Taker at Mania (which went with the storyline and set up his Beast run)

Before that he beat the shyt out of Cena, much to the delight of EVERYBODY, and even got a shirt out of the deal.

Before that he was in a feud where he was getting beat up by fellow part timer HHH in a back and forth series of matches


:dame: or are you referencing his run-ins?

generally his run ins [in no way am i referring J&J security with this]
Like monday...all those people only 1 person got some legit looking shots in....why?
 

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Who said he could take all of them at once? My post was about how he dominates everybody in general. If you think he should be getting handled by the likes Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods, I don't know what to tell you. Austin used to literally come in Royal Rumble-like scrambles at the end of Raw/SD and stun 24 guys in a row while they waited in line for their turn.

I've said on multiple occasions and even in this thread that guys like Rusev, Sheamus, Harper and even Del Rio/Owens should be formidable 1 on 1 opponents for him and could produce great matches (and even win) IF they were booked and built up properly.

The problem is people around here tend to focus on the effect (i.e. just what is seen on the screen in a single segment) rather than the problems that caused the issue in the first place. Some of y'all are up in arms about him blowing through guys (in a battle royal trope that has been used for literally 20 years) rather than getting pissed that nobody else is getting anywhere in the months between his appearances on the show. Monday was fine because it was the return of a big name building up a big match that's built for a dominant guy like him. The only criticism would have been to use more lower level heels like Miz and keep your top heels (if they even exist) out of his way. If he was doing this every week, there would be a major problem, but he's rarely even on the show (hence the announcement about him being there this past week).

And for people who want him to randomly start losing, how does it benefit them for Brock, who's the only guy on the roster whose matches and appearances still have a big time feel (and who comes with a big paycheck), to get beat down when the only thing it will accomplish is taking away his mystique and allure? They should definitely be keeping him away from the full roster, but still letting him wreck shop to keep his appeal, while simultaneously building up guys (like the ones I mentioned) who believably can go toe with him, and then let one of those guys beat him.

My main point was that the shyt is getting boring and predictable
But the second and probably more important point is the shytty booking they routinely use...like u said guys like sheamus rusev ko etc should be seen as legit threats but u got them being handled by reigns/cena/lesnar on the regular :francis:
 

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generally his run ins [in no way am i referring J&J security with this]
Like monday...all those people only 1 person got some legit looking shots in....why?

It's the Austin, Rock, Cena, Crow Sting, etc. "clear the house" booking that's been prevalent for two decades. Doesn't make sense logically for guys to wait to get their ass beat, but that's the way it has always been done forever. I'm surprised Sheam even looked that strong (maybe setting up a match :noah:
 

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My main point was that the shyt is getting boring and predictable
But the second and probably more important point is the shytty booking they routinely use...like u said guys like sheamus rusev ko etc should be seen as legit threats but u got them being handled by reigns/cena/lesnar on the regular :francis:
Definitely with you on that, but it's representative of the company and their direction as a whole. The way they use Brock is just one small piece of the pie.
 

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It's the Austin, Rock, Cena, Crow Sting, etc. "clear the house" booking that's been prevalent for two decades. Doesn't make sense logically for guys to wait to get their ass beat, but that's the way it has always been done forever. I'm surprised Sheam even looked that strong (maybe setting up a match :noah:
They had a brock and sheamus match recently on a house show that was a good example of how they should be booking him. It was a good back and forth match with sheamus getting in some good offense and looking like he had a legit chance of winning before brock took him to suplex city for the win.

I swear they know what they should be doing/what we wanna see but refuse to give it to us on some :umad:
 
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