So can we finally admit that 50 cent had the best entrance into hip hop of all time??

[RajWatts]

ems entrance was bigger than fifs and snoops entrance was bigger than ems

 

[Rapmastermind]

Lil' Kim?

Why do people sleep on Lil Kim's impact? Just look at Nicki doing her best "I'm Lil Kim" Impression and you see her influence is still being felt. Before Lil Kim, Female emcees were dressing like Dudes with baggy pants and hoodies. Kim made Females, FEMALES in Hip Hop. She was the one that made it ok for a Female to be sexy and rap. All these chicks took from Lil Kim's blueprint. She's easily one of the most influential female rappers of all time. "Hard Core" changed the game for Female Emcees. Yes Biggie was the mastermind behind her and he should get some credit too but Kim was the face. Just look how influential this promo poster was from "Hard Core":

 

[nieman]

50's entrance into hip-hop was How to Rob. That track has as much controversy with it as his Murder Inc/Ja Rule related stuff. It was covered by EVERY music outlet at the time in that he basically pissed off the whole hip-hop community. It was still being promoted as such TM/Columbia/Sony.

Then you got the shooting, Ghetto Qu'ran, Ja Rule fight in ATL, the stabbing, touring with Nas, Power of the Dollar shelved, dropped, then 100 million G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Unit mixtapes. All of this was before Get Rich, so pretty much the whole world new who he was 4-5yrs before that album.

 

[eastside313]

I don't know man. "Nelly" run was HUGE. "Country Grammer" actually sold more records than "Get Rich" and is the highest grossing debut rap album of all time. I'd argue that Nelly's entrance was just as big if not bigger than 50. The biggest difference was 50's, along with Big, Snoop, X and yes Drake was an instant success were as Nelly was like a slow crawl but he blew big with "Country Grammer".

 

[Mac Casper]

50's entrance into hip-hop was How to Rob. That track has as much controversy with it as his Murder Inc/Ja Rule related stuff. It was covered by EVERY music outlet at the time in that he basically pissed off the whole hip-hop community. It was still being promoted as such TM/Columbia/Sony.

Then you got the shooting, Ghetto Qu'ran, Ja Rule fight in ATL, the stabbing, touring with Nas, Power of the Dollar shelved, dropped, then 100 million G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Unit mixtapes. All of this was before Get Rich, so pretty much the whole world new who he was 4-5yrs before that album.

I remember grabbing the 'Guess Who's Back' tape from Barnes & Noble and the music guy behind the counter was looking like - but he knew who he was.

 

[JustCKing]

Snoop's entry was >>>>>> by far. Chronic is one of the best Hip Hop albums ever, but before that "Deep Cover" was just crazy.

 

[diverselikebeats]

With 50 you could just feel it in the air

 

[daboywonder2002]

Why do people sleep on Lil Kim's impact? Just look at Nicki doing her best "I'm Lil Kim" Impression and you see her influence is still being felt. Before Lil Kim, Female emcees were dressing like Dudes with baggy pants and hoodies. Kim made Females, FEMALES in Hip Hop. She was the one that made it ok for a Female to be sexy and rap. All these chicks took from Lil Kim's blueprint. She's easily one of the most influential female rappers of all time. "Hard Core" changed the game for Female Emcees. Yes Biggie was the mastermind behind her and he should get some credit too but Kim was the face. Just look how influential this promo poster was from "Hard Core":

thank you for schooling these dudes. the topic is who had the best ENTRANCE into hip hop. not who had the most successful career or who sold the most records. i look at best entrance as you building a huge buzz for yourself. everybody and their mama anticipating your album and the album lives up to its hype. lil kim did all of this. yea she didnt go triple platinum but who cares. you couldnt go anywhere without hearing that hardcore cd

 

[duckbutta]

Nah...Curtis' SECOND intro into the game was all marketing. It was, "Hey America! Check out super gangsta, shot nine times and survived, Eminem approved, Dre on the beat 50is Cent!"

Calvin came into the game spittin' that smooth gangsta shyt on Deep Cover and had everyone like . Then G Thang, the Chronic and Doggystyle? Calvin Lion definitely takes that crown.

50 always struck me as a pure marketing gimmick...nothing slick behind his lines...no real message in his music...half the time he seemed to be off beat...I always felt he purely rode eminem and dre's wave...i mean...you never heard of this dude until one of the greatest hip hop producers and THE white rapper got behind him...it took two all time greats to get him to blow...how could it be anything other than marketing...

50 cents success was a great social study into just how fickle the average hip hop fan...50 came in clowning ja rule for singing and then dropped shyt like 21 questions and candy shop...same type of music ja rule made...

Big ups to him though...he was giving an opportunity and he ran with it...but he was GIVEN an opportunity...he was GIVEN an image...he was GIVEN eminem and dre fanbase...to me it seems like Nelly blew up because that country grammar album was just smooth all the way through...just an album full of nothing but number 1 hit singles...snoop entrance was the same way...just his whole style and flow could not be denied...

Somewhere there is a paper with the title "how to market 50 cent to america" on it...i do not think you can find the same paper for snoop, nelly, or dmx...

Drake doesn't really count to me because he is a half black / half jew / emo slightly homo guy...so he appeals to everyone...

Hangs around enough real thugs to talk that nikka shyt
Is Jewish enough to talk that money shyt
Comes from a well to do family to talk that suburban shyt
Has enough grimy people in his circle to talk that ghetto shyt
Simps hard enough to get the female / weak male/ homo male audience...

 

[Still Benefited]

What does that have to do with recycling a marketing plan and image?

When 50 Cent first came out with Power Of A Dollar no one gave a fukk. When he became "controversial" in all the same ways that worked for Tupac, he blew up.

Bias has nothing to do with it because its clear that the idea to promote the fukk out of being shot was something they did with Tupac, the idea of having him the 'head' of a rap crew was something they did with Tupac/Outlaws, being shown in a ton of pictures with a bulletproof vest on and that wreckless 'thug' attitude was something they did with Tupac. When they needed singles they didnt just randomly choose the exact same 2 people who did '2 Of Amerikkaz Most Wanted' and 'California Love' to work on his first 2 singles.

Facts are facts breh.

How to Rob wuznt 50's controversial way of being noticed?meanwhile Pac simply did his thing and Dan Quayle bought his name up....guess u gon act like Keep Ya Head Up and I get Around never came out...yes NOBODY wuz checkin for Pac yet 50 wuz known for music without controversy...I never heard of that nikka before how to rob,and that wuz the only song I knew off til he reaapeared with Wanksta....people didn't even know when that nikka got shot outside of NY hate it or luv it but u knew when that shyt happened with Pac for a reason...people were checking for em.


Its stupid to say 50 wuz only poppin bcuz of the controversy,dude had undeniable hits....but the shyt u sayin might take the cake...the Pac comparison wuz definitly part of the marketing plan...just like it wuz DMX and Ja Rule....Pac made 3 NY nikkas careers get over it...may not have been part of they plan but it wuz damn sure apart of they labels marketing gimmick....pac killed NY and gave y'all life back when he died...say thank u and keep it movin

 

[ThatTruth777]

i remember on 106&park that 21 questions song was on there 24/7

 

[markp]

this thread concept is retarded. it depends on what you mean by "best" entrance

 

[01King]

Around the time GRODT dropped I've never seen such buzz from a hip hop artist ever. Everyone and their mama was talking about 50 and that album. I've never seen no shyt like that.

 

[markp]

Around the time GRODT dropped I've never seen such buzz from a hip hop artist ever. Everyone and their mama was talking about 50 and that album. I've never seen no shyt like that.

and then 3 years later he was irrelevant musically and commercially. shows what good marketing can do

 

[Flav]

Snoop 1st solo album had crazy hype behind it and it lived up to that hype! i cant say the same for any other rapper.

50 already had How to Rob and a record deal so that was his 2nd chance.