U didnt watch any of those games and are delusional. Ben would have beat shaq soft ass. Nothing u said ever happened. U will never be able to produce a clip quote or even picture of anythjng u just said because u made it up.
Ben was smaller but as strong if not stronger then shaq lazy ass. Shaq was just bigger then everyone and never could bully a legit bully in the league. Barkley 6'5 and just as lazy and slammed shaq ass in a game. Kobe half shaq size and height and was ready to throw hands with him. Oakley/Wallace/Antonio Davis would wash shaq if it went down. Shaq fasho a big goofy dude who can ross around dudes because he was big as a house but he never was in that catagory of tough. Reggie miller frsil ass was ready to swing on him yet ron artest, a legit crazy person, would rather fight an arena instead of ben wallace because its certain nikkas in the league where h know they arent just walking around with show muscles