So, Farrakhan is a Scientologist now and pushing auditing in the NOI

[NZA]

The real founder of Nation of Islam. Looks like a typical Khazar to me

if this man is a black god, im a jedi knight

 

[dennis roadman]

here's an interesting article on the origins of the NOI. it's a doctoral dissertation, i think

http://cultandculture.org/culture/i...n-roots-of-modern-african-american-islam.html

there's also "A Box of Self-Threading Needles", referenced in this article, but it's a master's thesis and hard to find.

One of the most controversial issues in the study of African-American Islam is the question of whether Wallace D. Fard, the founder of the Nation of Islam (NOI), was the same person as the Wallace or Wallie Dodd Ford incarcerated in San Quentin Prison in the second half of the 1920s.http://cultandculture.org/culture/i...s-of-modern-african-american-islam.html#_edn1 According to NOI tradition, Wallace Fard was born in Mecca, Arabia to a black father and white mother on February 26, 1877. After studying in London and at the University of Southern California, Fard, who was on a divine mission, arrived in Detroit on July 4, 1930 to introduce to the city’s African Americans his teachings about their origins – that black people are the “original man,” that their people were from Mecca, and that Islam was their true religion. However, in the 1950s, the FBI, in an attempt to discredit the NOI, conducted an investigation of Fard’s background and soon leaked its conclusions to the press. Fard’s true identity, the FBI asserted, was far from the idealized image he had given the NOI. He, first of all, was neither from Mecca nor half black. Fard was actually a dark-complexioned white – or mixed white and Asian – man, originally from Oregon, Hawaii, or New Zealand, who had been living in Los Angeles since the 1910s, was a derelict husband and father, and was a small-time opium dealer. It was in fact due to the last of these traits that resulted in Fard – whose true name, the FBI claimed, was Wallace or Wallie Dodd Ford – being incarcerated in San Quentin Prison in California from 1926 to 1929. The strongest pieces of evidence presented to support this claim were photographs and fingerprints of Wallace Dodd Ford purportedly from San Quentin prison that matched those of the Fard who was arrested in Detroit in the 1930s. One of the major criticisms of this evidence that has been brought up by the NOI is that no one outside the government has seen proof that these two pieces of evidence – particularly the fingerprint records – were genuine, and not planted by the FBI as part of its well-known disinformation and counter-intelligence activities at the time.
Recently, however, a 1917 draft registration card from Los Angeles for a Wallace Dodd Fard (on the card, “Ford” is put in parentheses next to “Fard,” indicating that the former was an alternative spelling) has been uncovered.[ii] The card indicates that this Fard was born in 1893 on February 26 – the same day, though not the same year, that the NOI claimed for its founder. Fard, described as being of medium height and build with brown eyes and black hair, is listed as an unmarried restaurant owner. Finally, his place of birth is noted as being Shinka, Afghanistan, which is possibly what is known today as the Shinkay region in the southeast part of Afghanistan or a town with a similar name in nearby northwest Pakistan – both places inhabited by the Muslim Pashtun people. The majority of these traits are consistent with much of the evidence concerning Fard discovered by the FBI in its investigation and as well as the additional evidence and analysis presented by Karl Evanzz, in his biography of Elijah Muhammad, and Fatimah Abdul-Tawwab Fanusie, in her 2008 dissertation.[iii] In particular, the connection between this Fard, Afghanistan, and the Pashtun people is incredibly suggestive, as Evanzz and Fanusie, prior to this card coming to light, had traced a number of rather rare terms and ideas in the NOI to likely having a Pashtun – or at least Pakistani – provenance.[iv] Fard may have actually been born in that region or he may have given authorities his father’s birthplace instead of his own. As Evanzz suggests as a possibility, Fard’s father could have taught his son traditions from his homeland, and Wallace might have borrowed from these when creating the NOI’s doctrines.[v] In addition to the draft card, a 1924 marriage record from Southern California for a Wallie Dodd Ford has been found; Ford’s parents’ names are listed here, and are the same as what Fard told the NOI and FBI.[vi] While I do not wish to say the draft card and marriage record are indisputable proof that the Fard/Ford in Los Angeles was the same person identified by the FBI (Ford) as well as the same person who later appeared in Detroit (Fard), it certainly increases the likelihood.

 

[HideoKojima]

Your logic is erroneous and I am not saying this to be argumentative with you, just pointing out the wrong in it.

you are subtly pushing the ideal that the lighter you are, the less black you are. Black is Black, no 2 ways about it. and even in the continent of Africa, some countries produce every shade imaginable. but to keep this reply on topic, I've never trust Louis Farrakhan from the jump. especially after reading Malcolm X's autobiography and seeing how they silenced one of their own because he wasn't about making double standards or over-looking wrong in his own people. with that said, fukk what Louis Farrakhan has to say, he is as much a problem to the progression of a unified America (i.e. An America where it's citizens are judged on action and not on appearance) as any Caucasian who hate's others solely based on their skin color, religious background or any other aspect they deem unworthy.

There's cats on here who think white people are responsible for light skin people... nikkas really think 'black' actually has to do about being literally black

 

[KG1]

That is not W.D Muhammad.

Elijah offered a Million dollars to the feds and whoever else that can produce the man to him ..and nothing happened, silence!

People in here do not klnow what the fukk they are saying..
you got that dumb cornball Masser Tea-Her claiming some bullshyt lies that he read in his sperm coated nuwabian text books they called Scrolls..
like this for example..

Ok Yakub

 

[Master Teacher]

here go that paper you was talking about @Tuaminator


I see two crackers on there, i the picture Elijah says he the savior, yet you postinga book with some random nikka on saying its fard

GTFO, you lost in the sauce

This nikka straight rocking a masonic pose, the whole NOI is nothing but an off shoot of Masonry like Knights Templar and all that other bullshyt

down to the uniforms they wear and the fact they have numbered temples

get this bullshyt outta here, it's done nothing for black people

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I justed post Elijah Muhammed son, saying the shyt and you talking about nuwabians lol
you obessed with them nikkaz

the book you poted look like one of york's scrolls you dissing lol

I BEEN TO TEMPLE NUMBER 1 in DETROIT YOU fakkit

this the picture they had up in their just like in the moive X directed by Spike Lee when malcom is in Elijah's office

everyody knows who fard was, he has a criminal record

warith deen (rip) had made so many statements about his father and his father's mentor, WD, that you can't put together what is the right or wrong message..warith even explained that he said somethings to keep the spirit alive and re-directed his group to mainstream islam..

lol @ you going to temple nomber 1, who gives a shyt unless it was back then when they were building their cypher, it doesn't mean shyt..ive seen and spoken to some heavy members and former members who shared plenty of info with me, that still doesn't mean shyt because we were not around with the primary sources IE wd fard etc.

and btw..
before the moorish school/centre/temple opened, you had many visitors from the globe who used to try and establish a movement, including turks, arabs and other folks..many brought in sufism, orthodox islam and even ismaeli teachings..
wd fard and another group who came from the east helped build the nation of islam and wanted it to be part of the moorish temple but things became difficult with certain fiolks. Mr Fard was with Noble Drew on several occasions and a syrian gentleman by the name of Fuad abdul muhammad was an advisor to the grand imperial Noble Drew..

York and many other folks tried to point out that wd fard and Fuad Abdul were the same cat which is false, both were non-negroe in apperance and both had foerign accents and knew of eachother..

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

here go that paper you was talking about @Tuaminator


I see two crackers on there, i the picture Elijah says he the savior, yet you postinga book with some random nikka on saying its fard

GTFO, you lost in the sauce

This nikka straight rocking a masonic pose, the whole NOI is nothing but an off shoot of Masonry like Knights Templar and all that other bullshyt

down to the uniforms they wear and the fact they have numbered temples

get this bullshyt outta here, it's done nothing for black people

the book i posted is a scroll by your step-daddy, dwight york..
its called..

shiekh daoud vs wd fard..

all of the horse shyt surrounding the false wd etc is in that book..

 

[Master Teacher]

the book i posted is a scroll by your step-daddy, dwight york..
its called..

shiekh daoud vs wd fard..

all of the horse shyt surrounding the false wd etc is in that book..

I never even read that shyt or know what it's in it

I'm getting my shyt from factual data that is public info

you know more about york shyt than me

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I never even read that shyt or know what it's in it

I'm getting my shyt from factual data that is public info

you know more about york shyt than me

i truly came at you regarding your statement about the NOi being lead by non black men, IE they were/are asiatic..
if they are not black, then why would they relase a book called, message to the black man, not asiatic man..
you do know what ASIATIC (asia) meant by right>?

 

[Master Teacher]

i truly came at you regarding your statement about the NOi being lead by non black men, IE they were/are asiatic..
if they are not black, then why would they relase a book called, message to the black man, not asiatic man..
you do know what ASIATIC (asia) meant by right>?

Because the organization was marketed to black people for monetary gain

they selling newspapers, bean pies and shyt, its a business

same reasons why are arabs are set up in the black community, for money

It wouldn't matter to me who was the leader if the organization actually stood for something and actually went to back for community

farrakahn is not an effective leader and he never should have been put in charge in the first place, because the nation has become irrelevant under his leadership because all he can do is talk people tired of that bullshyt it's no different than the christian church

funny how the two nikkaz who was about action Malcolm and Khalid both got kicked out both ended up dead


fukk them nikkaz, they provide security for rappers but not for the black neighborhoods fukk'em everything about them is phony

 

[SuperNintendo Chalmers]

Real talk. fukk the NOI. They believe in a fugazzi doctrine. It was founded by a white man. Lol. The evil big headed scientist? Lmao. They believe in that shyt.

They should have been a drug or prison recovery/rehab treatment organization. That's what they were good at. They have done some good. But they are a bullshyt org who have an unhealthy obsession with Jews, and elevates Farrakhan to God status. Human deification is always a troublesome thing.

They are no different than the Black Church. Farrakhan is a loud mouth, tough talking poverty pimp. They have some local mosques that do good community work. Not to mention the patriarchy.

They ain't about no action. Malcolms activity, oratory and presence made them militant and Black nationalist to a degree. They have never been about that action. Just about money, fukking hoes, corruption and the over indulgent male ego.

Last but not least, they had a big hand in killing Malcolm. So fukk that and fukk them.

 

[Master Teacher]

Real talk. fukk the NOI. They believe in a fugazzi doctrine. It was founded by a white man. Lol. The evil big headed scientist? Lmao. They believe in that shyt.

They should have been a drug or prison recovery/rehab treatment organization. That's what they were good at. They have done some good. But they are a bullshyt org who have an unhealthy obsession with Jews, and elevates Farrakhan to God status. Human deification is always a troublesome thing.

They are no different than the Black Church. Farrakhan is a loud mouth, tough talking poverty pimp. They have some local mosques that do good community work. Not to mention the patriarchy.

They ain't about no action. Malcolms activity, oratory and presence made them militant and Black nationalist to a degree. They have never been about that action. Just about money, fukking hoes, corruption and the over indulgent male ego.

Last but not least, they had a big hand in killing Malcolm. So fukk that and fukk them.

I don't care about the doctrine, in physical reality these nikkaz ain't about shyt, they know different than the GDs or any other gang only they got a religion

all they do his take money from their members

nobody in the streets takes these nikkaz serious anymore, their numbers are dwindling, farrakahn is a terrible leader the nation has been in decline ever since took over, all that work has been squander

2meo and keyser sosa, yall some cowards, becaue you wanna neg me, because your feelings of heart that you following nikkaz that will stab you in the back over a simple disagreement

you notice their best most intelligent members always end up living

and yall wanna talk about York, same white people shyt, deflection, when you have no answers, yall think just like a white man because you following a white man's religion

 

[88m3]

he killed Fard and Malcolm what's left to be said?

 

[SuperNintendo Chalmers]

Not to mention NOI had a specific goal, to create a nation. Lol. These nikkas have failed.

They preach an economic Blueprint that they have failed to implement on a large scale but they have the resources.

They have the power and resources to be a radical of force of change and healing for our people. It's just dissapointing and frustrating cause our people seem to follow irresponsible leaders and defend irresponsible institutions.

 

[blackzeus]

He looks Italian to me (based on two pictures I have seen). Plenty of Southern Italians have swarthy skin, especially Sicilians.

Greeks, Turks, even some Spaniards could also qualify