So how did atheism become a trait of intellectual people?

[Dave24]

I took a ton of History of Science classes as an undergrad (I have a PhD now). I can't remember the exact books, but here is a list of books that explain the close relationship between religion and science.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=the+history+of+science+and+religion

The separation between science and religion is a modern phenomenon (like in the last 100 years). Most of the great scientists of the ages were religious men. shyt, Newton studied science to learn more about god, for example.

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Coming out as an atheist could be dangerous for that person all those years ago.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

If you think a man was crucified, died and rose up from the grave 3 days later to ascend into heaven with NO proof is possible then something is wrong with you. Especially if that was told to your ancestors during slavery.

 

[Dave24]

If you think a man was crucified, died and rose up from the grave 3 days later to ascend into heaven with NO proof is possible then something is wrong with you. Especially if that was told to your ancestors during slavery.

I had doubts too sometimes but the posters @MMS and @Rhakim can break it down.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

I had doubts too sometimes but the posters @MMS and @Rhakim can break it down.

There's nothing to breakdown. The "miracles" in the Bible could've have happen because they're physically impossible. Conveniently during this time of mass media and advanced technology God is nowhere to be found to do another miracle. We have to take the word of an imperfect book written by imperfect humans that spanned generations. He could've sent that book, after it was compiled by humans of course, to All thru out Afrika via miracles but he didn't do it. Now you got kneegrows who's bloodline have NOTHING to do with the area, black facing someone else's culture because they don't value their own. Wannabe Jews.

 

[Luke Cage]

Just means they are not as impressionable. you can still be a dumbass athiest.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I took a ton of History of Science classes as an undergrad (I have a PhD now). I can't remember the exact books, but here is a list of books that explain the close relationship between religion and science.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=the+history+of+science+and+religion

The separation between science and religion is a modern phenomenon (like in the last 100 years). Most of the great scientists of the ages were religious men. shyt, Newton studied science to learn more about god, for example.

This.

I took a history of science and religion class in college that spent a long time studying the Galileo incident, funny outcome was that by the end all the atheists in the class liked Galileo a lot less and the smattering of Christians liked him a lot more.

- Newton becomes a product of such traditions and thus a product of his time- A bunch of folks like Galileo Galilei, Hypatia and many others begin to realize through such observations that the church/religious institutions in charge were mostly (if not completely) spewing some of them are killed for it, so they keep quiet.

All of that is historical nonsense.

Hypatia was a pagan, not an atheist. She never came from a Christian background so she didn't have any sort of "realization" and leave it; in fact her students were primarily Christian and she was closely allied with several Christian rulers. Her death was a horrible event, but all evidence is that it was the result of political dispute/intrigue and not some sort of protest against her religious beliefs.

Galileo was a devout Christian, and if you read his letters you'll see that he was a better theologian than most of his opponents. He didn't disagree with the existence of God or the reliability of the Bible, he disagreed with the way that certain Church leaders were interpreting the Bible inaccurately.

- Scientific revolution, yadda yadda, Charles Darwin comes along and explains why believing in Genesis is dumb and how you're an essentially an evolved ape, JFK comes along, The Moon, Nasa, Hubble Space Telescope, Lucy's skeleton is found, Star Trek, Human Genome project, Higgs Boson particle, Carl Sagan, Neil Degrassi Tyson, computers, internet, artificial intelligence......Humanity evolves out of the religious superstition it was birthed out of and we all become Captain Picard status going where no man has gone before.

This is a weird-ass Gish Gallop, so I've just gonna make a few points....

* Major theologians like St. Augustine were saying that Genesis shouldn't be interpreted literally nearly 2000 years ago, long before anyone knew anything about evolution. The fundamentalist belief in a 7-day Creation is not the only or even the most sensible interpretation of the passage (especially considering it is invalidated by the very next chapter).

* The founder of the Big Bang Theory was Fr. Georges Lemaître, a Catholic priest. When the Big Bang was first proposed it actually shocked many atheists, who were upset by the thought that the universe had a beginning because they felt that lent credence to Christian claims. There is literally nothing that has ever been discovered about space that is at odds with Christian beliefs, so what does JFK, the Moon, Hubble, Star Trek, etc. have anything to do with anything?

* Human Genome Project was headed by Francis Collins, a devout evangelical Christian who has written several books on science and faith

* Higgs Boson particle is relevant....how? Just because scientists came up with cutesy name?

* Carl Sagan was a devout and evangelical atheist, Neil Degrassi Tyson is an agnostic who is kinda pissed at atheists name-dropping him, neither have anything to do with anything

If your go-to has to be a family religious cult with maybe 30 followers total, you're not making a strong argument.