so I recently joined a Right-side forum UPDATE #3: got banned again. joined another one

[OfTheCross]

these people are certifiable when it comes to their guns

no1 giving up their shyt, for no thing.

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btw, i never agreed to follow ANY gun law...

my natural right [that predates any government/law] to self protect trumps any law to the contrary.

thats HOW our great republic was forged, through the barrel of a gun...

The highest law in the land says specifically, any amendments require two-thirds of the people and 3/4 of the states.

So, as soon as the Liberals reach that threshold, you'll wake me up and let me know, right?

Until then, the simple fact is that 100% of federal gun laws are unconstitutional.

Do you understand?

Those laws are ILLEGAL, and it is your duty and your responsibility as a citizen who abides the Constitution, to ignore them and disobey them every chance you get!

The federal government simply does not have the authority to regulate weapons. It says so specifically in the highest law in the land. It's in plain, simple English, even a ten-year-old could understand it.

that's in a thread about the Philly standoff that kinda got derailed...

At this point we all better just strap up

 

[Professor Emeritus]

these people are certifiable when it comes to their guns

no1 giving up their shyt, for no thing.

some quotes:

that's in a thread about the Philly standoff that kinda got derailed...

At this point we all better just strap up

So they're insane, obsessed, they've been preparing for war for multiple generations, and they've acquired arsenals that make Mexican drug lords jealous and play with them constantly.

Strapping up right now, at a time when police happily find any excuse they can to shoot a Black man, will help the Black community....how?

 

[OfTheCross]

So they're insane, obsessed, they've been preparing for war for multiple generations, and they've acquired arsenals that make Mexican drug lords jealous and play with them constantly.

Strapping up right now, at a time when police happily find any excuse they can to shoot a Black man, will help the Black community....how?

It's to protect me from the crazy CACs

 

[Columbo]

these people are certifiable when it comes to their guns

no1 giving up their shyt, for no thing.

some quotes:





that's in a thread about the Philly standoff that kinda got derailed...

At this point we all better just strap up

That thread? Derailed? No not at all breh

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It's to protect me from the crazy CACs

So are you gonna pull first? Pull a gun to escalate a scenario where no one has touched a weapon? Pull on one guy, get shot by his friend (or by a cop) from the other side?

Or are you pulling second? Waiting for him to pull first, then he sees you try to pull and he shoots?

Either scenario, pull first or pull second, you've just way upped the chances of someone on your side dying. Guns weren't designed as defensive weapons breh.

 

[Consigliere]

these people are certifiable when it comes to their guns

no1 giving up their shyt, for no thing.

some quotes:





that's in a thread about the Philly standoff that kinda got derailed...

At this point we all better just strap up

I mean... I like his energy.

 

[OfTheCross]

So are you gonna pull first? Pull a gun to escalate a scenario where no one has touched a weapon? Pull on one guy, get shot by his friend (or by a cop) from the other side?

Or are you pulling second? Waiting for him to pull first, then he sees you try to pull and he shoots?

Either scenario, pull first or pull second, you've just way upped the chances of someone on your side dying. Guns weren't designed as defensive weapons breh.

I intend to use it the need arises. Whether it's first or 2nd. If I got it, and I need it, I'm pullin

 

[Pressure]

So they're insane, obsessed, they've been preparing for war for multiple generations, and they've acquired arsenals that make Mexican drug lords jealous and play with them constantly.

Strapping up right now, at a time when police happily find any excuse they can to shoot a Black man, will help the Black community....how?

I'd think it'd be reasonable to also be prepared. Unless you think the government is going to protect you

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I intend to use it the need arises. Whether it's first or 2nd. If I got it, and I need it, I'm pullin

That's circular logic, you didn't answer the question at all.

Guns are offensive weapons, not defensive. You pull first when no one has pulled, you've created the situation where someone is much more likely to die than before you pulled. You pull after he's already pulled but hasn't shot, you've created the situation where he's much more likely to shoot and again someone is much more likely to die. Pretty much the only scenario in which you ain't escalating is if the other guy has already pulled AND fired...and in that case, chances are you won't get the chance to pull at all....and even if you did, "good guys with a gun" don't have a particularly great track record even there.

I'd think it'd be reasonable to also be prepared. Unless you think the government is going to protect you

Protect me from what? Be specific. I'll use my wits to protect me like I always have. I've seen guys on the street who know how to use their wits and guys who know how to use a gun, and it's clear who comes out alive more often. Some fools will claim they can use both, but whenever you have a hammer, the problem always starts looking like a nail and your judgment gets distorted.

Any gun in your home is far more likely to end up killing someone in the home (via accident, suicide, or domestic violence) than it is to ever kill an enemy from outside the home. People are 3-5 times more likely to die a violent death if they have a firearm in their home than if they do not. They did a study in Philly that showed that mugging victims who were packing heat were 5.5 times more likely to get killed during the mugging than victims who weren't. It's all for the same reason - guns are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons, so they escalate, they don't protect.

Like Jesus said damn near 2000 years ago, "Those who live by the sword will die by the sword." Human history keeps showing that to be true.

 

[OfTheCross]

That's circular logic, you didn't answer the question at all.

Guns are offensive weapons, not defensive. You pull first when no one has pulled, you've created the situation where someone is much more likely to die than before you pulled. You pull after he's already pulled but hasn't shot, you've created the situation where he's much more likely to shoot and again someone is much more likely to die. Pretty much the only scenario in which you ain't escalating is if the other guy has already pulled AND fired...and in that case, chances are you won't get the chance to pull at all....and even if you did, "good guys with a gun" don't have a particularly great track record even there.





Protect me from what? Be specific. I'll use my wits to protect me like I always have. I've seen guys on the street who know how to use their wits and guys who know how to use a gun, and it's clear who comes out alive more often. Some fools will claim they can use both, but whenever you have a hammer, the problem always starts looking like a nail and your judgment gets distorted.

Any gun in your home is far more likely to end up killing someone in the home (via accident, suicide, or domestic violence) than it is to ever kill an enemy from outside the home. People are 3-5 times more likely to die a violent death if they have a firearm in their home than if they do not. They did a study in Philly that showed that mugging victims who were packing heat were 5.5 times more likely to get killed during the mugging than victims who weren't. It's all for the same reason - guns are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons, so they escalate, they don't protect.

Like Jesus said damn near 2000 years ago, "Those who live by the sword will die by the sword." Human history keeps showing that to be true.

It's not circular logic. It's acknowledging the reality we live in.

Gunplay is extremely risky and very serious. But I'd rather be caught with it than caught w/o one

 

[Pressure]

Protect me from what? Be specific.

they've been preparing for war for multiple generations,

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It's not circular logic. It's acknowledging the reality we live in.

Gunplay is extremely risky and very serious. But I'd rather be caught with it than caught w/o one

If you don't think it's circular logic then you don't know what circular logic is.

I asked you which specific scenario you would need the gun in, and you replied that you would need it when you would need it.

Of course you "think" it would help you, those who wish to rely on violence always assume that the violence will help somehow. Experience, logic, statistics, and Christian morality suggests that you would be wrong. I can argue from the Bible, from my own experience, from logical scenarios, or from statistics. If you can't argue from any of those, why do you assume that you're right and not just brainwashed by the American worship of violence?

You're not being specific. Be specific. Otherwise this just a boogeyman thread. What is the actual war scenario that your strap gonna save you from?

 

[Pressure]

You're not being specific. Be specific. Otherwise this just a boogeyman thread. What is the actual war scenario that your strap gonna save you from?

I am being specific. If you believe that white militias are arming themselves for a race war then it is in the best interest for blacks to be armed themselves.

I'm also responding to you who said that white people are deranged psychopaths who are arming themselves for a war.

What war @Rhakim? Be specific. Or were you just dap fishing?

 

[Dat Migo]

But it says you joined the coli in March of 2013

 

[OfTheCross]

If you don't think it's circular logic then you don't know what circular logic is.

I asked you which specific scenario you would need the gun in, and you replied that you would need it when you would need it.

Of course you "think" it would help you, those who wish to rely on violence always assume that the violence will help somehow. Experience, logic, statistics, and Christian morality suggests that you would be wrong. I can argue from the Bible, from my own experience, from logical scenarios, or from statistics. If you can't argue from any of those, why do you assume that you're right and not just brainwashed by the American worship of violence?




You're not being specific. Be specific. Otherwise this just a boogeyman thread. What is the actual war scenario that your strap gonna save you from?

I don't want to ever need it. But to act as if it can't be a useful tool in this country is not dealing in reality.