so I recently joined a Right-side forum UPDATE #3: got banned again. joined another one

[OfTheCross]

Post the link so Coli can raise hell

I'll PM it to whoever wants it... don't wanna put it in here cause it'll be searchable

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[Red Shield]

You should consider strapping not for offensive or anti-cop reasons but to protect your life and your family's lives. If anything bad goes down, they are itching to act out. All their survivalist forms are obsessed with mobs of urban rioters coming to loot the suburbs.

Yep

 

[Sohh_lifted]

Yes, in their fantasies. In reality, what do you actually see happening?





Describe them. What is the actual action you believe they are going to take.




My argument against guns as "defense" has nothing to do with Uncle Sam and the PD. No one where I'm from puts their trust in the PD like that. My argument comes from two main points.

#1. Guns escalate confrontations, they don't deescalate them. They are offensive weapons, not defensive. Pulling makes you and others more likely to die, not less.
#2. If you've survived the confrontation without pulling to that point then you should bet on yourself continuing to survive without pulling and use your OTHER resources. There are numerous ways to deescalate or otherwise gain the upper hand in a confrontation. Nothing is "foolproof", shyt happens, but they're much more likely to work than a gun is.

So far as gun accidents there are a lot of accidents that a gun safe/lock does nothing to prevent. Plenty of accidents come while cleaning, transporting, or training with the gun.

So far as suicides, depending on the study homes with guns in them are somewhere between 300% and 500% more likely to have a gun suicide than homes without a gun in them, and there is no corresponding drop in suicides by other means. Meaning that if your son or daughter or brother or wife is going through some shyt, which you man know about it, you may not, they are far more likely not to make it to the other end if there's a gun available. And that includes you too - you are not immune to a bad stretch.

So far as homicides, depending on the study homes with guns in them are between 160% and 300% more likely to experience a homicide than homes without a gun. This is partially due to escalation of conflict with outsiders and partially due to more fatal domestic violence.




Because a gun is not a defensive tool. It shoots bullets, it doesn't block them.

The vast majority of times someone threatens you with a gun they don't want to pull the trigger. If they wanted to pull the trigger, they would have already pulled it before you had any time to even think of your response. Because they haven't pulled yet, you have time to deescalate the situation, which almost anybody can do (the vast majority of the time someone pulls they don't shoot, so deescalation is common), but it helps to be ready and practiced at THAT instead of ready to escalate.

If, instead, you choose to pull yourself, then suddenly THEY feel threatened and they're gonna shoot before your gun is halfway out of its holster.




What is happening in Florida that the gun would be effective against that doesn't happen on Century and Crenshaw?

I grew up with guns, I still technically own guns, but I never kept my guns in my home in the city because I knew they'd just be an extra target.

hmmm home invasion from someone that HAS a gun or wants to break enter your home, with a woman and child at home...

 

[Professor Emeritus]

hmmm home invasion from someone that HAS a gun or wants to break enter your home, with a woman and child at home...

A burglary by someone who was trying to grab and run. He was parked on the fukking lawn. He ran cause he wasn't about that life at all.

Burglars are almost never violent because they want money, not beef, and they know that killing someone makes them way more likely to get caught and catching far longer sentences. That's also why the vast majority of burglaries happen when no one is home.

But you know why a burglar would kill? If they got surprised by a homeowner with a gun and felt threatened. That's one of the few times that they'd risk it - if they thought their own life was in danger. Which, as I mentioned before, is one of the reasons that homes with guns in them are MORE likely to be victimized by homicide than homes without.

Of course, there are very, very rare home invasions where someone is planning to kill from the beginning. Extraordinarily rare, because like I said everyone knows that killing makes you far more likely to be caught. Let's say you were targeted by one of those one-in-a-million scenarios. The killers are planned, ready, as likely as not to be armed better than you. If they are about that life then they might be practiced killers, and they're coming to get you when you're not ready at all. You might even be asleep. You gun...in it's safe so your kid doesn't accidentally find it, right? Definitely not loaded, right?

 

[Dad]

I'll PM it to whoever wants it... don't wanna put it in here cause it'll be searchable

check your messages

DAP+REP

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

i keep the strap on me to protect myself from antifa supersoldiers

 

[Capital Steez]

Yeah, getting into an arms race against white supremacists seems counterintuitive.

We gotta think smarter than those who’s primary diet is comprised of Mt. Dew and FoxNews.

 

[fact]

So....you made a thread over at The Locker Room?

 

[88m3]

Manhattan Plastic Surgeon Arrested With BMW Full Of Weapons After Allegedly Threatening Wife

I'm fine with banning assault rifles and limiting the amount of ammunition one can posses. I think if you couple that in with national health care, data bases, and limiting the movement of firearms we would be in much better shape.

This country is hemorrhaging with mentally ill people and the propaganda and societal issues that creates them. We need top down changes to address what's wrong with our society.

 

[OfTheCross]

So....you made a thread over at The Locker Room?

Yeah, getting into an arms race against white supremacists seems counterintuitive.

We gotta think smarter than those who’s primary diet is comprised of Mt. Dew and FoxNews.

Oh no, it's not a competition. But if one of those crazies wants to act up towards me I'll be prepared

 

[TNC]

I don't want to ever need it. But to act as if it can't be a useful tool in this country is not dealing in reality.

He's not saying guns aren't a useful tool, he's saying they can be just as harmful, if not more so, as they are helpful.

The reason why is that people's natural reaction, just as you are demonstrating, is to match force with force. Well when that happens, injury and death are much more likely to happen than if that that force is not matched.

 

[OfTheCross]

He's not saying guns aren't a useful tool, he's saying they can be just as harmful, if not more so, as they are helpful.

The reason why is that people's natural reaction, just as you are demonstrating, is to match force with force. Well when that happens, injury and death are much more likely to happen than if that that force is not matched.

Just because you have a firearm doesn't mean it's to be used in every forceful encounter. Especially when someone has the drop on you. The best thing you can do is comply and wait for your opportunity to strike back

 

[TNC]

Just because you have a firearm doesn't mean it's to be used in every forceful encounter. Especially when someone has the drop on you. The best thing you can do is comply and wait for your opportunity to strike back

I agree with what you are saying, but the initial point was that having a firearm escalates things, whether intended or not.

Any man can talk crazy to you one day and you might just laugh and disregard him, or maybe check him, whatever. But if the same guy does the same actions with a gun on his hip, you are going to put a bit more concern towards the words he's speaking. And Vice Versa. The bigger issue is that human being are emotional and flawed creatures. No matter how much preparation or training you have, mistakes and errors in judgement can and will happen. I don't think gun laws or restricting guns with fix the problem but it WILL reduce the problem, at the expense of your freedoms.


Its really just a matter of asking yourself how much are you willing to pay/trade for security and freedom, because you aren't going to get 100% on both.

 

[OfTheCross]

these nikkas took all my threads and "bushed" em





I'm going to pretend I didn't notice and keep posting in the regular forums. But gotdamn they sensitive

Spoiler: Link to their bushes

http:// the politics forums . com/forums/59-The-Mosh-Pit


I added some spaces in it cause I don't want them snooping over here

 

[Pimpdaddy]

Post the link so Coli can raise hell

maybe we should start some kind of board raid some day

coli took hat 4cac L and never tried anything again