So Immigrants Are Stealing Jobs Huh?

[Rusty$hackleford]

Well thats communism or socialism according to americans. How dare we demand anything but profit margins for corporations and shareholders.

Im being tongue and cheek but i think we def need a real tough policy that all corporations should work towards building thier workforce and community. No exceptions.


But free market capitalism does not allow that to happen. And we arent exploring any other method. Not even a middle ground. On both sides.

Corporate social responsibility (CSR)

A relatively new concept, and as part of sustainability and strategic efforts to grow brand recognition/reputaion, it makes a lot of sense. But like you describe, people still stuck in old way of thinking. In that a company's only objective is to maximize profits. So naturally, it's not a popular one and I bet, some people out there would even group it in as "woke" and socialism (bozos)

CSR argues that without simultaneously building up the communities in which you operate, you actually reduce profit in the long run. Whether that be by not having the skilled people necessary to design/innovate/operate your brand (into the future), or a reduced market of consumers with the means to buy your product.

The responsibility should fall on the corporation, but i think it's important for the consumers to hold them accountable and place these expectations on them. Nowadays, the consumer is more informed than ever before

 

[Neuromancer]

The source of the problem is capitalism and it's need for a bottom class to exploit

Bingo. The real issue.

 

[Neuromancer]

Some trades are in trouble because the typical white Republican business owner, job site manager is going to scrimp and hire 12 Mexicans vs 6 decent Americans.

Capitalism informed by racism strikes again

 

[Wildin]

Capitalism informed by racism strikes again

shyt my boy worked at a meat plant, with plenty of illegals (they still hire illegals to this day). And my boy wasn't anything special, just came to work on time everyday for a few years. Even when he got his second and third DUI he told his boss (white guy) "I guess I got a quit, I'm going to jail" his boss was like "when you get out come on back if you need a job". He got out, went back, same wage, better hours, within 2 months he got a promotion and was in tech. That plant ended up paying for him to learn all the welding, moved him to Texas for a few years where he was some higher paid tech. Meanwhile "the illegals" were just a revolving door. In and out. Never moving up.

And my boy isn't/wasn't some ambitious guy. He literally just went to work, did his job, came home.

That shyt ain't happening to "illegals".

 

[Neuromancer]

shyt my boy worked at a meat plant, with plenty of illegals (they still hire illegals to this day). And my boy wasn't anything special, just came to work on time everyday for a few years. Even when he got his second and third DUI he told his boss (white guy) "I guess I got a quit, I'm going to jail" his boss was like "when you get out come on back if you need a job". He got out, went back, same wage, better hours, within 2 months he got a promotion and was in tech. That plant ended up paying for him to learn all the welding, moved him to Texas for a few years where he was some higher paid tech. Meanwhile "the illegals" were just a revolving door. In and out. Never moving up.

And my boy isn't/wasn't some ambitious guy. He literally just went to work, did his job, came home.

That shyt ain't happening to "illegals".

This is an interesting post. He did his job and was on time. They knew he'd probably be around so they pushed him up the ladder to a more important position that needed stability. An illegal can't provide that if ICE is at the door ECT. Or they have to go back home for some reason. All the expendable jobs will be held by people the company deems expendable.

No funny shyt I think we as a people should also be looking to get in those stable positions and not worry about what the non stable positions got going on.

 

[DEAD7]

Go pick fruit

Project your fear of manual labor onto others brehs
For the right wage no one would be out picking me in them fields.

 

[DEAD7]

Members of the poorest demographic in America saying they wont do ag labor for any wage is so insane to me.
Struggling in an air-conditioned fast-food kitchen, being seen as better than working in a field for 6 figures is something i hope we overcome as a people.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Members of the poorest demographic in America saying they wont do ag labor for any wage is so insane to me.
Struggling in an air-conditioned fast-food kitchen, being seen as better than working in a field for 6 figures is something i hope we overcome as a people.

I think people’s reaction is not that they don’t that job but that you selling them a dream.
Wtv dollar amount that you be selling enough for you to be out-picking everyone ain’t happening.
And it’s people’s natural instinct to say no

Certainly jobs are tied to the perception of a low class job because it IS a low class low paying job

 

[DEAD7]

I think people’s reaction is not that they don’t that job but that you selling them a dream.
Wtv dollar amount that you be selling enough for you to be out-picking everyone ain’t happening.
And it’s people’s natural instinct to say no

Certainly jobs are tied to the perception of a low class job because it IS a low class low paying job

Its short sighted.
Within one generation those foreign-born workers achieve a higher socioeconomic status than native born workers at the bottom.
We are actually choosing to be poorer than them because the job(s) "look bad".