So is Drake still dropping this year??

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He probably doesn't even need to drop with a platinum mixtape on his mantle this year. No need to overdo it by dropping the actual album. He might as well wait till next year when the anticipation is even higher. But I got a feeling around November we will be getting Views from the 6 from him for some reason.
 

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I say he peaks with Take Care and people start realizing that Drake has changed his style for the worse, rather than the better.
Been saying this. That's the best he'll ever do. Especially now that we know he doesn't write his own shyt, that aura is pretty much gone. When TC dropped, I was sure he wrote 100% of it. That's one of the reasons why that album connected with so many people. It was such a personal album. Looking at him now, I'm sure he's just the face. A pop star who has the image but not the mind.

Abel, Hush and I'm sure other people combined to do 75-80% of the work on TC. I look at him like a Katy Perry or Rihanna now, not a Prince or a Jay-Z. (People who write their own shyt)

Him not being able to recapture that aura is only going to make him go MORE pop, and will
Lead to his eventual demise for whoever coming as his successor will have an easier time grabbing his old chair.

Next few years of The genre are going to be interesting.

Shame, because I've been really looking forward to VFT6. Especially before all this exposal happened. As I've said in the booth plenty of times, I was hoping VFT6 would be a return to form and a classic.

It's almost impossible now
 

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Been saying this. That's the best he'll ever do. Especially now that we know he doesn't write his own shyt, that aura is pretty much gone. When TC dropped, I was sure he wrote 100% of it. That's one of the reasons why that album connected with so many people. It was such a personal album. Looking at him now, I'm sure he's just the face. A pop star who has the image but not the mind.

Abel, Hush and I'm sure other people combined to do 75-80% of the work on TC. I look at him like a Katy Perry or Rihanna now, not a Prince or a Jay-Z. (People who write their own shyt)

Him not being able to recapture that aura is only going to make him go MORE pop, and will
Lead to his eventual demise for whoever coming as his successor will have an easier time grabbing his old chair.

Next few years of The genre are going to be interesting.

Shame, because I've been really looking forward to VFT6. Especially before all this exposal happened. As I've said in the booth plenty of times, I was hoping VFT6 would be a return to form and a classic.

It's almost impossible now

disregarding that, even think about what type of artist he was before fukkin problems/6 God. After that every song he made he "diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid" this on it, and started doing these off tempo melodies on it. He wouldn't sing as much in his raps nor rap a lot when his singing. I think he's been affected by the other artists of the times and QM did something like that on his reference tracks that make me think that it's a result of trying to emulate the reference tracks that were put in place. Drake even sounds like QM vocally on those songs we heard, and sounds more like QM than Drake himself.
 

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disregarding that, even think about what type of artist he was before fukkin problems/6 God. After that every song he made he "diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid" this on it, and started doing these off tempo melodies on it. He wouldn't sing as much in his raps nor rap a lot when his singing. I think he's been affected by the other artists of the times and QM did something like that on his reference tracks that make me think that it's a result of trying to emulate the reference tracks that were put in place. Drake even sounds like QM vocally on those songs we heard, and sounds more like QM than Drake himself.
So in your opinion, which project is most reflective of who he is as an artist?
 

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So in your opinion, which project is most reflective of who he is as an artist?

Take Care was the epitome of who Drake is, or I should say, was. It showed his diversity and it was the ultimate expression of him as an artist, while he was still humble. Look What You've Done is one of the greatest songs ever made. Now he's a lot more cocky and arrogant than before.

I heard about Drake from XM radio way back so I remember when comeback season DROPPED. He was so humble and happy to just make music back then, the music wasn't that developed and he didn't have his style refined, he relied HEAVILY on his affiliation with Trey Songz back then, which is where his style originated, if you ask me. If you ever heard Trey Songz's rap mixtapes you would know what I mean. You saw a lot of this in So Far Gone, which is his second best project and would be the second best answer to this question if you asked me this question before IYRTIITL, even though it wasn't as introspective. His wayne influence couldn't be seen til later when Ransom dropped, which is probably when nikkas started taking him seriously. Anyway, now that Drake is on top and has been at the top and feels like he will remain there, he's going to only get more and more arrogant. It'll take a serious power trip before people start to realize that their fandom is blinding them, Drake is declining.

I went from being proud to be a day 1 Drake fan to :snoop:and forcing myself to listen to his shyt. It's hard to listen to a man who has lost his way and doesn't stay humble. He was talking to nikkas like me on this song and yet he still managed to jump off the deep end:

 

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Take Care was the epitome of who Drake is, or I should say, was. It showed his diversity and it was the ultimate expression of him as an artist, while he was still humble. Look What You've Done is one of the greatest songs ever made. Now he's a lot more cocky and arrogant than before.

I heard about Drake from XM radio way back so I remember when comeback season DROPPED. He was so humble and happy to just make music back then, the music wasn't that developed and he didn't have his style refined, he relied HEAVILY on his affiliation with Trey Songz back then, which is where his style originated, if you ask me. If you ever heard Trey Songz's rap mixtapes you would know what I mean. You saw a lot of this in So Far Gone, which is his second best project and would be the second best answer to this question if you asked me this question before IYRTIITL, even though it wasn't as introspective. His wayne influence couldn't be seen til later when Ransom dropped, which is probably when nikkas started taking him seriously. Anyway, now that Drake is on top and has been at the top and feels like he will remain there, he's going to only get more and more arrogant. It'll take a serious power trip before people start to realize that their fandom is blinding them, Drake is declining.

I went from being proud to be a day 1 Drake fan to :snoop:and forcing myself to listen to his shyt. It's hard to listen to a man who has lost his way and doesn't stay humble. He was talking to nikkas like me on this song and yet he still managed to jump off the deep end:




Name a rapper who is great AND known for being "humble" :childplease:

nikka acting like this is Ms. America or some shyt. Hip hop is the closest musical genre to a sport, bravado and cockiness are inextricably linked to the genre. Jay isn't humble in his raps, neither is Nas, neither were Pac or Biggie or any of the other greats. Rappers have been bragging over beats for decades, NOW we wanna start complaining about lack of humility? :childplease:
 
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nikkas who don't write their own bars should be humble...Braggadocio was based on ABILITY or REP...Drake has neither. What does he have and what did he have to make him arrogant other than an easy life? That's the main issue. He has no legitimacy and no space. His fans hopped into the conversation because he's THEIR representative. Suburbanites, soft boys, emo men, and whiteboys who weren't cool enough to be down before...oh, and chicks who wanna hear about the L's nikkas take due to them. Ego boost for hoes...Something to relate to for lames...and something safe for the average cac who wants to turn up.
 

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Name a rapper who is great and known for being "humble" :childplease:

nikka acting like this is Ms. America or some shyt. Hip hop is the closest musical genre to a sport, bravado and cockiness are inextricably linked to the genre. Jay isn't humble in his raps, neither is Nas, neither were Pac or Biggie or any of the other greats. Rappers have been bragging over beats for decadea, NOW we wanna start complaining about lack of humility? :childplease:

This is true. But typically in my experience, when rappers were cockiest, the worse their music got in my opinion. I'm not much of a Jay fan so I won't speak on him, but when Nas was feelin himself the most and wasn't hungry, he was wack. Pac and Big are dead so idk if I can really count them but my favorite Pac songs are introspective have more going on than him just rapping about having more money or bytches than his fans. Pac's complex mind and way of thinking is what made me a fan, and more of a fan of him than Big because he wasn't really about that. Big kicked that street shyt, but his best rhymes to me is when he raps about what he did to get to this point and ALSO introspective. "Look at all this bullshyt I been through." :blessed:

When you get to a point where the only thing you have to rap about is how much better you are than everyone else, you start to get stale in my opinion. It's why certain nikkas can't hold my attention :manny:
 

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nikkas who don't write their own bars should be humble...Braggadocio was based on ABILITY or REP...Drake has neither. What does he have and what did he have to make him arrogant other than an easy life? That's the main issue. He has no legitimacy and no space. His fans hopped into the conversation because he's THEIR representative. Suburbanites, soft boys, emo men, and whiteboys who weren't cool enough to be down before...oh, and chicks who wanna hear about the L's nikkas take due to them. Ego boost for hoes...Something to relate to for lames...and something safe for the average cac who wants to turn up.

Your argument is nonsensical. Snoop, Kanye, Will Smith, and Dre are all rappers who nikkas known get rhymes written for them, which of them is known for being humble in their raps? nikka allowing their Drake hate to cloud logical thinking.

If you wanna say its wack for rappers to have ghostwriters I agree, you'll have no arguments from me. But don't stress this humility shyt when its never been a part of hip hop :childplease:
 
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