So is LeBron now officially immune from all logical hate?

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

4 reg season MVPs & 3 Finals MVPs >>> 1 reg season MVP & 2 Finals MVPs (his 3 rings as Shaq's young boy/side kick don't mean shyt either compared to Lebron being the alpha for every ring, fakkit.)


God damn bro u been on the board for 7 months and have 4000 posts, take a breather and go outside for a little.

Kobe was young when the lakers first started winning and shaq was 7-8 years older. Lebron was in his 9th year in the league when he first won. So of kourse lebron should of been the alpha after choking away 2011 where Wade and bosh both out scored him. 5>>>3. Kobe averaged 24 & 26 in 2001 & 2002 finals too.

 

[Lifer11]

nah i remember he was salty and didnt shake hands after losing a playoff series in cleveland and they wouldnt let that shyt go

fukk em

Yea I remember that they were overly critical of that shyt, especially when considering Klay did it this year and there was barely even a mention of it.

 

[Lifer11]

Kobe was young when the lakers first started winning and shaq was 7-8 years older. Lebron was in his 9th year in the league when he first won. So of kourse lebron should of been the alpha after choking in 2011. 5>>>2

He has 3 rings, all as the #1 option and 3 Finals MVPs. Kobe has 5, 3 as a sidekick and 2 on an incredible all-around team and 2 Finals MVPs. And Lebron never had a teammate even close to as talented/dominate as prime Shaq and had way more pressure. If he came into the league under the same circumstances as Kobe, with prime Shaq as a teammate he'd have 6+ rings, especially since Lebron is a team player and him and Shaq would've been able to keep playing together.

What about the Lakers superteam choking against the Pistons in 04?

What does it matter when a player wins as long as he wins? Jordan didn't win til later in his career either, does that make Kobe's first 3 rings more valuable than Jordan's first 3?

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

He has 3 rings. And Lebron never had a teammate even close to as talented as Shaq and had way more pressure. If he came into the league under the same circumstances as Kobe, with prime Shaq as a teammate he'd have 6+ rings, especially since Lebron is a team player and him and Shaq would've been able to keep playing together.

What about the Lakers superteam choking against the Pistons in 04?

Super team with old ass Gary Payton? Kobe still averaged 25 & 26 in 2001 and 2002 finals with shaq at his peak. Lebron only averaged 18 and choked away a three peat in hindsight. While Wade and bosh both scored 23-26 ppg. Lebron was too mentality weak to win anything pre 2012. He was suppose to help shaq but he had prime Wade and prime bosh and he kouldnt even help them in his second finals appearance.

 

[Lifer11]

Super team with old ass Gary Payton? Kobe still averaged 25 & 26 in 2001 and 2002 finals with shaq at his peak. Lebron only averaged 18 and choked away a three peat. While Wade and bosh both scored 23-26 ppg. Lebron was too mentality weak to win anything pre 2012 because he had prime Wade and prime bosh and he kouldnt help them his second finals

They were damn near a super team going into the season with just Kobe and Shaq. In 03-04 they had Kobe Shaq Payton and Malone, and a very solid cast of role players. 4 Hall of Famers, yea that's a super team regardless of GP and Malone being past their primes.

Bosh averaged 18 not 23-26. And Lebron still led them to 2 rings. As the indisputable first option. Just got his 3rd in the greatest comeback in probably professional sports championship history, definitely NBA history, and one of if not the most dominant Finals performance of all-time. That's 1 more ring than Kobe as the #1 option and 1 more Finals MVP.

Lebron 3-4 is really no worse than Kobe 5-2 when considering the teams Lebron's played on compared to the teams Kobe's played on. Kobe was favored probably every Finals appearance, 2008 might be the only time he wasn't, Lebron was favored 2 times out of 7 appearances.

And he did not have prime Wade, 2011 was the last season Wade was even close to his prime but he was already past it at that point.

 

[Gangstar8]

Nah as a day one Lebron fan I can honestly say they didn't villainize him until he went to Miami, and even then it wasn't the media as much as the casual/shady or overtly racist fans honestly.

his time is over now durants turn to be the villian

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

They were damn near a super team going into the season with just Kobe and Shaq. In 03-04 they had Kobe Shaq Payton and Malone, and a very solid cast of role players. 4 Hall of Famers, yea that's a super team regardless of GP and Malone being past their primes.

Bosh averaged 18 not 23-26. And Lebron still led them to 2 rings. As the indisputable first option. Just got his 3rd in the greatest comeback in probably professional sports championship history, definitely NBA history, and one of if not the most dominant Finals performance of all-time. That's 1 more ring than Kobe as the #1 option and 1 more Finals MVP.

Oh yea bosh averaged 18 and lebron averaged only 17. Gary and Malone were past their primes. Wade bosh and lebron were all in their primes. Wade averaged 26 and yelled at lebron for his choke.

Kobe averaged 26.5 on 50% in 2002 when he was 24.
5-2>>>3-4 and a one kyrie 3 away from 2-5.

 

[Lifer11]

his time is over now durants turn to be the villian

He hasn't been the villain for a while now. I wouldn't say Lebron's time is over yet either. With Durant being the #1 option for the Warriors and how much of a mental edge Lebron has over him, they still might be able to pull one out against them. Lebron and Kyrie > Durant and Steph. So then if Love can step up and actually contribute consistently in the Finals next season should they make it, he can possibly give as much as Klay considering Klay and Draymond are both going to get way less shots than they're accustomed to thanks to Durant.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Now Wade wasn't in is prime in 2011. Same Wade that averaged 26 and had to make up for the greatest player in the worlds choking bron stans y'all.

 

[Lifer11]

Oh yea bosh averaged 18 and lebron averaged only 17. Gary and Malone were past their primes. Wade bosh and lebron were all in their primes. Wade averaged 26 and yelled at lebron for his choke.

Kobe averaged 26.5 on 50% in 2002 when he was 24.
5-2>>>3-4 and a one kyrie 3 away from 2-5.

I don't know why you keep pointing out 2011 to me, I didn't make any excuses for Lebron he completely shyt the bed.

Still no way any reasonable NBA fan could say Kobe is better or had a better career than Lebron. No reasonable person would try to make that case anymore.

In 2004 Kobe averaged 22 pts, 2.8 reb, and 4.4 ast on 38% shooting and 17% 3pt against the Pistons and they lost 4-1. How is that better than Lebron averaging 17.8 pts, 7.2 reb, and 6.8 ast on 47.8% shooting and 32% 3pt? Seriously can u possibly say Kobe didn't choke almost if not just as much in 04? He averaged 5 more pts on an absolutely disgraceful FG% and 3 pt %--17%, also almost 5 less reb and almost 3 less assists.


Holy shyt I just have to say it again....38% from the field and 17% from 3pt range, what!? That's disgraceful. How do Kobe stans hate on Lebron in 2011 when he did that in 04 with the most dominant player in league history as his teammate?

Also took 22 shots a game. Holy shyt. What a horrible performance. Damn the Black Mamba with ice in his veins choked horribly that series.

 

[Gangstar8]

He hasn't been the villain for a while now. I wouldn't say Lebron's time is over yet either. With Durant being the #1 option for the Warriors and how much of a mental edge Lebron has over him, they still might be able to pull one out against them. Lebron and Kyrie > Durant and Steph. So then if Love can step up and actually contribute consistently in the Finals next season should they make it, he can possibly give as much as Klay considering Klay and Draymond are both going to get way less shots than they're accustomed to thanks to Durant.

I am talking about lebron as the villain is over
Durants heel run is starting
obviously lebrons time as the best player is not over they just won

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

I don't know why you keep pointing out 2011 to me, I didn't make any excuses for Lebron he completely shyt the bed.

Still no way any reasonable NBA fan could say Kobe is better or had a better career than Lebron. No reasonable person would try to make that case anymore.

5-2 >3-4

 

[Draje]

Super team with old ass Gary Payton? Kobe still averaged 25 & 26 in 2001 and 2002 finals with shaq at his peak. Lebron only averaged 18 and choked away a three peat in hindsight. While Wade and bosh both scored 23-26 ppg. Lebron was too mentality weak to win anything pre 2012. He was suppose to help shaq but he had prime Wade and prime bosh and he kouldnt even help them in his second finals appearance.

Wasn't Kobe losing 3-1 leads to 6'3 Canadian CACs in the playoffs as the "alpha" on his squad?

Kobe was great as a 2nd option, same way that Kyrie or Klay was. I mean, Shaq won a ring with Kobe dropping 15 PPG in the finals.

So Kobe has less rings, MVPs, and FMVPs as the clear cut number one option on his team.

 

[Draje]

5-2 >3-4

4 MVPS, 3 FMVPs, 3 rings > 1 MVP, 2 FMVP, 5 Rings

Or you gonna argue that Pippen's 6 is better than Kobe's 5 even though Pip doesn't have the FMVPs to his name?

 

[Gangstar8]

Wasn't Kobe losing 3-1 leads to 6'3 Canadian CACs in the playoffs as the "alpha" on his squad?

Kobe was great as a 2nd option, same way that Kyrie or Klay was. I mean, Shaq won a ring with Kobe dropping 15 PPG in the finals.

So Kobe has less rings, MVPs, and FMVPs as the clear cut number one option on his team.

someone neg this fakkit
this fool has no idea who kobe had in his team