Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
Ain't lebron 3-4 as a first option on his team. And most importantly Kobe>>>>Wade as all time SG so you don't belong in this conversation. Kobe 2-1 in the finals as a first option on his team.
So is LeBron now officially immune from all logical hate?
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Ain't lebron 3-4 as a first option on his team. And most importantly Kobe>>>>Wade as all time SG so you don't belong in this conversation. Kobe 2-1 in the finals as a first option on his team.
in half the years it took lebron as a number 1.
Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
5-2>>>3-4. Dropping 25+ in 4 final wins>>>>lebron stats in 3-4. Kobe won without shaq. Pippen didn't win without Jordan. Kobe>>>wade
Kareem had 2 finals mvp too
does not mean anything i dont see you out here saying kareems rings dont count
Broke Wave
The GOAT
@illeyebuck
Nah for real I was rooting for the Warriors because I loved stephs game and yall just eliminated us from the ECF
I was laughing my ass off saying shyt like "win one for the Land brehs
until LeBron really did that shyt 
He accomplished the impossible and you gotta love it.
MashAllah bro you finally see the light
The media DEMONIZED Lebron for his entire career, they wanted him to be the villain so bad
the cac media
i will not fall into their agenda
Nah for real I was rooting for the Warriors because I loved stephs game and yall just eliminated us from the ECF
I was laughing my ass off saying shyt like "win one for the Land brehs
until LeBron really did that shyt He accomplished the impossible and you gotta love it.
Something called variables come into play.
3-4 with 1 of those losses coming against a Spurs team in 07 while playing on a team that Kobe would've been lucky to get to the 8th seed. 1 was a horrible choke job. And the other 2 were against LITERALLY 2 of the greatest teams in league history. All of the 7 appearances Lebron was the best player on his team. Also 3 Finals MVPs.
Kobe's 5-2 came on the clear cut better team every year except maybe 08. He choked just as bad in 04 as Lebron did in 2011. 3 of those rings came as the clear cut sidekick to the most dominant player in league history. And 2 came with an incredible all around team. Kobe was only the best player on his team for 2 of those appearances. And 2 Finals MVPs.
Who said Kobe's rings don't count? But the same way Jordan gets more credit for those 6 rings than Pippen, Shaq gets more credit than Kobe, and Lebron gets more credit than Wade and Kyrie (Lebron's 3 also mean more than Kobe's first 3).
EDIT: Thought u quoted me, but still just as relevant.
It depends on what you mean by "other moments" - he still isn't above criticism for his on-court play and any corny behavior off it in the future. Just like every other player.
all our duas during ramadan had an impact@illeyebuck
Nah for real I was rooting for the Warriors because I loved stephs game and yall just eliminated us from the ECF
I was laughing my ass off saying shyt like "win one for the Land brehs
He accomplished the impossible and you gotta love it.
Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
No he didn't choke like lebron and disappear
.lebron created a circus called the decision and made a big deal out of going to Miami only to disappear and average 0-8 points in the 4th. 2-1 as a first option>>>3-4 as first option with superstars Wade bosh and kyrie. Kobe only had Pau as a superstar with him. Kobe averaged 22 and unlike lebron he shot the ball. Lebron stood around and watched.
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They just ignore it entirely and blame Shaq's pick and roll defense
No he didn't choke like lebron and disappear
Kobe averaged 22 and unlike lebron he shot the ball. Lebron stood around and watched.
I don't care what Lebron did with the decision and that pep rally. Kobe performed just as poorly maybe more. 38% from the field and 17% from 3pt range on a team that was HEAVILY favored. We're not talking about his time with Pau, this was 04 with Shaq. 22.6 pts a game on 38% from the field and 17% from 3 isn't better than 17.8 pts a game on 47.8% from the field and 32% from 3. Kobe took 22 shots a game Lebron took 15.
And Bosh and Kyrie weren't superstars, Kyrie may have just established himself as a superstar. Bosh never was and never will be a superstar. And Wade was nowhere near prime Shaq.
And in 08 and 09 Kobe had Pau, Bynum, Odom, and Artest. That's a better all around team than those Heat teams were.
And Lebron's first finals loss came against the Spurs with his 2nd and 3rd options being Mo Gibson and Ilguaskas. So with Wade Bosh and Kyrie he's 3-3, 2 losses against all-time great teams, 1 was an awful choke job no excuses.
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Broke Wave
The GOAT
This thread isnt about Kobe at all... And not to mention... These arguments against him are super weak. Im not even gonna address them. We appreciating Bron now.
Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
Lebron took 15 shots cuz he was scared. He made a circus with decision only to come up with only 17 and he was absent. The whole world came down on him for it so stop trying to re write history like 2011 wasn't the biggest choke job. Shaq only averaged 4 more points than Kobe. Wade averaged almost 10 more than lebron. FOH. Even third wheel bosh averaged 1 point more.