So is "war" with Venezuela the end game of the whole Immigrants drama

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Trump wants the reserves
That's the end game
He wants to run the hemisphere. Venezuela is the biggest dog to check. Which is kinda sad when you really think about it. Most countries would get down without the nonsense.

Not that I agree, but everything this dude wants to do can be done in less chaotic ways. Him and his administration are fukking idiots.
 

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They been trying to create smoke since the Chavez days
Maybe I'm out the loop but this narrative that Venezuela is some huge narco state is news to me. Skipping right over Mexico is an interesting choice
The Venezuelan economy is cooked and it seems like it sucks to live there right now but there are sanctions against them
I guess they running with the drug angle to justify moving now. I think most ppl see through it though
 

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They been trying to create smoke since the Chavez days
Maybe I'm out the loop but this narrative that Venezuela is some huge narco state is news to me. Skipping right over Mexico is an interesting choice
The Venezuelan economy is cooked and it seems like it sucks to live there right now but there are sanctions against them
I guess they running with the drug angle to justify moving now. I think most ppl see through it though
I'm sure some military, politicians etc are on the narco take but thats normal in pretty much every country, you don't move drugs around the world without connections.

That's no real justification for whatever they want to do so they are trying to see if the whole narco terrorism, narco nation shyt sticks.

"THAT BOAT WE VAPORIZED WAS CARRYING ENOUGH FENTYNOL TO KILL ALL YOUR CHILDREN WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!"
 

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Trump wants the reserves
That's the end game
And if he does take Venezuela they all coming to America. So in the end he's about business over his base. And then the people who say but ice is worth it will look stupid when they realize he doesn't care about illegals as much as resources.

Anyone who isn't a pea brain need to consider that America playing an empire usually comes with waves of migration. If you don't want mass migration don't support a war monger
 

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TL:DR: "Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world, estimated at over 303 billion barrels. This figure surpasses Saudi Arabia and Iran, making Venezuela the top country in terms of proven reserves."

it's low quality oil but yes america wants to control all oil in that part of the world.

and they want to control their entire hemisphere. look at their rhetoric towards canada, greenland .. :hubie:
 

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I'm sure I don't need to go over how even before getting back into power, the Trump administration has been demonizing illegal immigrants, specially the ones from Latin America.

Now with Venezuela, first they started attacking little "drug boats" (no evidence thought), calling them "narco terrorist", talking about they carrying enough drugs to kill thousands. murdering everyone on board in international waters, with no congress approval or oversight, just psycho soldiers pressing a button and murdering people without questioning it.

Today Trump confirmed that he authorized the CIA to peform terrori...sorry active operations on Venezuelan soil, and have bombers flying around the venezuelan coast



Venezuelans are not muslims half a world away, they are christians living in the same continent, depending of where you live they look like your neighbors, co-workers, hell even like you.

So has this all been them trying to make a military operation in venezuela more aceptable to the average American? We have seen that even the MAGA base was resistent to conflicts but we can clearly see the goverment putting together the whole justification in real time.

TL:DR: "Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world, estimated at over 303 billion barrels. This figure surpasses Saudi Arabia and Iran, making Venezuela the top country in terms of proven reserves."
Well sir , the United States has created almost all of the problems in latin , south America & the Caribbean islands with lies & propaganda while using them as banana Republics .
 

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They been trying to create smoke since the Chavez days
Maybe I'm out the loop but this narrative that Venezuela is some huge narco state is news to me. Skipping right over Mexico is an interesting choice
The Venezuelan economy is cooked and it seems like it sucks to live there right now but there are sanctions against them
I guess they running with the drug angle to justify moving now. I think most ppl see through it though
I remember my Ecuadorian friends telling me about how crazy Maduro was thinking he was the chosen one in line after Maduro.

I just don’t see how this is about anything other than Rubio’s obsession with regime change mixed with Trump’s oil/resource obsession.

Oil is the only thing Venezuela has so if they sell their asset off in a new regime it would cripple any government’s ability to actually fix its economy
 

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I remember my Ecuadorian friends telling me about how crazy Maduro was thinking he was the chosen one in line after Maduro.

I just don’t see how this is about anything other than Rubio’s obsession with regime change mixed with Trump’s oil/resource obsession.

Oil is the only thing Venezuela has so if they sell their asset off in a new regime it would cripple any government’s ability to actually fix its economy


Maduro is no saint but the way Trump is going with this is going to end uo with Maduro's "sins being forgiven" and unifying the Latin American Left. The lady from the Venezuelan opposition winning the Nobel Peace Prize out of nowhere is setting the regime change stage lol. A Women fighting for the people will have the feminist confused too
 
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