So It Begins: They're Turning on Nas After Kelis Interview

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I do approach one allegation with some skepticism however after 2 allegations of the same crime the burden of proof shifts to the alleged perpetrator
No it doesn't and please tell us why you women are not going at that broken spirited hoe that went back to fab...

Also inform me how her saying she struck him and he struck back made him the only guiity party here?

No evidence no crime. Just heresay.
 

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Consider the source. Everyone knew Carmen Bryan was full of shyt a decade ago.
Sure but does it say anything to you about Nas's character at all that he had long-term relationships with both of these women? That doesn't make him a woman beater but it does cause me to question his judgment. If we are casting serious doubt on the validity and character of these two women then I think the judgement extends to him as well for forming long-term relationships with them. We don't have to jump and take sides like they are complete idiots and Nas is a hero. Reality is usually much more complicated and there is usually blamed to be had by all the people involved. My guess is all three of these people have pretty serious issues that need addressing through therapy or counseling.
 

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No it doesn't and please tell us why you women are not going at that broken spirited hoe that went back to fab...

Also inform me how her saying she struck him and he struck back made him the only guiity party here?

No evidence no crime. Just heresay.
This is just the way I view things. Sure people make false accusations all the time but the more and more people who make the same accusation the more inclined I am to believe that it's true. If one dude who is shady tells you that your girl is cheating you probably won't believe him but you would probably start scratching your chin after 2 and if it was more than that you probably would think that you share that girl. Same rationale .
 

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This is just the way I view things. Sure people make false accusations all the time but the more and more people who make the same accusation the more inclined I am to believe that it's true. If one dude who is shady tells you that your girl is cheating you probably won't believe him but you would probably start scratching your chin after 2 and if it was more than that you probably would think that you share that girl. Same rationale .
That's logical but you didn't address why everyone is going at Nas when she said they'd both fight...

where's the logic in that? "I hit him he hit back" turns into wife beater?

Let alone the employees at the restaurant tweeting about seeing her abuse him physically...

I think given the only independent party to chime in so far on this says it was her as the instigator and her own words confirming this it should have never gotten thrown out to the press as him being a woman beater that's not accurate or objective journalism/reporting at all.
 

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That's logical but you didn't address why everyone is going at Nas when she said they'd both fight...

where's the logic in that? "I hit him he hit back" turns into wife beater?

Let alone the employees at the restaurant tweeting about seeing her abuse him physically...

I think given the only independent party to chime in so far on this says it was her as the instigator and her own words confirming this it should have never gotten thrown out to the press as him being a woman beater that's not accurate or objective journalism/reporting at all.
Well I think you know why. Nas is the bigger celebrity and Nas is a man.

To your other question I think context is really important and we don't have the full context of what went on between the two of them. We can understand a situation getting out of hand one time with one woman but to have the same out of hand situation in a second relationship is really messy at best and possibly worse then that. I think whether we call somebody a woman beater depends on the context. Let's say Ray Rice only hit his woman once but when he did he knocked her the hell out. Even if she had hit him first would you call him a woman beater? I would. I think at the point where a man is using his strength to overpower a woman or beat her up then he is a woman beater. But if she hit him and he hit her back to get her off of him that's a different story. Again we don't know what went on here but based on the story that these two women are telling it doesn't sound good
 

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Well I think you know why. Nas is the bigger celebrity and Nas is a man.

To your other question I think context is really important and we don't have the full context of what went on between the two of them. We can understand a situation getting out of hand one time with one woman but to have the same out of hand situation in a second relationship is really messy at best and possibly worse then that. I think whether we call somebody a woman beater depends on the context. Let's say Ray Rice only hit his woman once but when he did he knocked her the hell out. Even if she had hit him first would you call him a woman beater? I would. I think at the point where a man is using his strength to overpower a woman or beat her up then he is a woman beater. But if she hit him and he hit her back to get her off of him that's a different story. Again we don't know what went on here but based on the story that these two women are telling it doesn't sound good
you're right we don't know much but from what we do know it's enough for most people to absolve her of any blame and make him the perpetrator even though her words paint her as the instigator.

shyt's hilarious to me. If a woman feels that she can put hands on me she's getting hit but i'd never raise my hands to her otherwise.

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So far Nas got the independent witness backing him. Let's see if that makes the news rounds.

I loved that no women ever condemned Jay being attacked by Solange even though we all saw it. This is part of why the sexes will never be equal because we don't bear equal responsibility for our actions. Assault is assault regardless of who is behind it man or woman, just because men are naturally stronger does not mean they should accept physical abuse from women without defending themselves accordingly. If I'm Nas I'm hitting back too.
 
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