So Josh Freeman was on drugs

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That would be a big ass risk to try and do that, you'd pretty much get blackballed by the league if you tried something like that. His value is so low cuz this is his last year of his contract and his play has been inconsistent, so the Bucs could prolly only get a 6th or 7th for him.

Schiano wants him gone cuz he wants his own QB, but his own QB is asscheeks. He drafted a guy who he tried to recruit to get to come to Rutgers but got turned down for NC State. Schiano took this as the chance to get the QB he always wanted. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if Schiano stays and we have a top 5 pick, he won't take a QB cuz he loves him some Mike Glennon.

Glennon sucks. Id rather throw Freeman out there....give him shock therapy or something...
 

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The initial report called it "drugs" and didnt go into specifics. josh went into specifics to clear his name...and you actually think it was orchestrated by his camp??? :dahell:

No, I'm just speculating. It seems terrible down there so who the hell knows.
 

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The real issue here is beyond football.


How a team can violate privacy rights for ANYBODY let alone a player that has gone thru some shyt with the team shouldnt be ignored. This shyt is just one big diversion.

Football wise it makes no sense that theyd drive his trade value in the dirt, but what it does do is take away from the fact that they fukked up hiring this coach.

What yall dont get is the fact that Raheem Morris was let go because the team was "too undisciplined" and they needed someone to make these kids toe the line and that will cut down on stupid mistakes on and off the field. So they bring in Schiano to right the ship (dont ask me how :mjpls)


Problem is we're still disorganized and undisciplined. The way they portrayed Freeman is that he was the weak link. Thats why they looked at Palmer, and why they drafted Glennon in the 3rd. So when Schiano's coaching shortfalls would have come to a blow after this week and without Freeman being the fall guy...it all makes sense to leak this shyt to get the heat of Greg's back.


fukk the Glazers too..im glad United is shyt this year too :pacspit:

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So Schiano is doing this all because Freeman is black?:what:
I'm not playing the race card, but he's doing it cuz Freeman did that interview with ESPN. Schiano is the type guy that seems that'll pop shyt at you and when you pop shyt back, he'll get mad and tell the boss or some shyt.

Freeman ain't his guy and he wanted his guy to start, but his guy couldn't win the job,so what's the best way to get your guy the spot? Sabotage the incumbent, so everybody will want the back up in the game, which is his guy.

Look at the playcalling from the first 3 weeks of the season and then look at it from this past sunday. Everything was run, run, pass and when the pass took place it was long an drawn up option patterns, this past Sunday, everything was short and real quick with the routes, but then Schiano being the dumbass he is, reverted back to his run, run, long drawn out pass play and his QB wilted under the pressure and threw 2 picks in the fourth, unlike Freeman, when the game is close, he finds a way to move the ball and get the team the lead in the last parts of the game.
 

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Ain't that the over arching theme of this thread? Schiano is shytting on Josh because he's black?
No. That's all you. Some of us just know that white athlete wouldn't be put through public smearing like this. He doesn't like Freeman for whatever reason. But we all know there are people who will believe Freeman is self inflicting this bad news because of a perverted willingness to do so and Schiano and people of his ilk have no problem taking advantage of it
 

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No, I'm just speculating. It seems terrible down there so who the hell knows.
No...this "speculation" seems to be circulating on sports talk...and I find it dumb and wonder bread
 

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No. That's all you. Some of us just know that white athlete wouldn't be put through public smearing like this. He doesn't like Freeman for whatever reason. But we all know there are people who will believe Freeman is self inflicting this bad news because of a perverted willingness to do so and Schiano and people of his ilk have no problem taking advantage of it

Breh, you're saying it, but you're not saying it:lolbron:

Don't be passive aggressive on this shyt. It ain't like you're right or wrong, it's your opinion:ehh:
 

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Glennon sucks. Id rather throw Freeman out there....give him shock therapy or something...
Exactly. We all know Glennon sucks, but the fans down there are so hellbent on getting something different, they'd rather have the rookie play and lose than the QB who gives them the best shot of winning. The fans down there blame Freeman for the last 10 games and us going 1-9, but they don't wanna admit that it was the defense and the coach's fault for most of those losses. Out of the 9 losses, 6 or 7 of those losses Freeman got us the lead late with like 3-5 minutes left in the game and the defense blew it and loss in the final seconds or coaching went super conservative and let the other team's offense score by going prevent.
 

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No. That's all you. Some of us just know that white athlete wouldn't be put through public smearing like this. He doesn't like Freeman for whatever reason. But we all know there are people who will believe Freeman is self inflicting this bad news because of a perverted willingness to do so and Schiano and people of his ilk have no problem taking advantage of it

That's nonsense. First, whenever a guy fails a drug test, there is controversy. I already suspect guys of doping when they fail. Brian Cushing doped. So did that caveman in Green Bay. Freeman is no different. Second, Freeman has gotten tons of chances to impress. He's had several seasons to improve and still throws bone-headed INTs. He's a NFL starter but not the guy Tampa needs. Some say Bradford is worse than Freeman and maybe he is but Bradford doesn't throw INTs so nobody really notices his mediocre play as much as Freeman's.
 

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I'm not playing the race card, but he's doing it cuz Freeman did that interview with ESPN. Schiano is the type guy that seems that'll pop shyt at you and when you pop shyt back, he'll get mad and tell the boss or some shyt.

I could see this as the reason.

Racism still exists. But sports, especially the HCs in professional sports, is probably the last place it takes place in today's age:skip:
 

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I'm sorry but Freeman isn't the QB to lead the


That's nonsense. First, whenever a guy fails a drug test, there is controversy. I already suspect guys of doping when they fail. Freeman is no different. Second, Freeman has gotten tons of chances to impress. He's had several seasons to improve and still throws bone-headed INTs. He's a NFL starter but not the guy Tampa needs. Some say Bradford is worse than Freeman and maybe he is but Bradford doesn't throw INTs so nobody really notices his mediocre play as much as Freeman's.
Have you read the confidentiality tied to failing this type of drug test?

There's a reason why you're hearing about it NOW as opposed to 46 drug tests ago. Being captain obvious about Freeman's play doesn't change how wrong you are in regards to this drug test. This brand of failed drug testing is level 1 and is to remain confidential. THAT'S WHY it being leaked is controversial and the Bucs are in possible trouble. Do you not get that??? :dahell:
 

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Exactly. We all know Glennon sucks, but the fans down there are so hellbent on getting something different, they'd rather have the rookie play and lose than the QB who gives them the best shot of winning. The fans down there blame Freeman for the last 10 games and us going 1-9, but they don't wanna admit that it was the defense and the coach's fault for most of those losses. Out of the 9 losses, 6 or 7 of those losses Freeman got us the lead late with like 3-5 minutes left in the game and the defense blew it and loss in the final seconds or coaching went super conservative and let the other team's offense score by going prevent.

The Bucs have to see what they have in Glennon so nothing is lost in starting him over Freeman. They feel they've seen enough of Freeman to know what he is. Do I feel like Freeman should have gotten more chances? Sure but you can't play like absolute trash and expect to keep your job.
 

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Exactly. We all know Glennon sucks, but the fans down there are so hellbent on getting something different, they'd rather have the rookie play and lose than the QB who gives them the best shot of winning. The fans down there blame Freeman for the last 10 games and us going 1-9, but they don't wanna admit that it was the defense and the coach's fault for most of those losses. Out of the 9 losses, 6 or 7 of those losses Freeman got us the lead late with like 3-5 minutes left in the game and the defense blew it and loss in the final seconds or coaching went super conservative and let the other team's offense score by going prevent.

Which is why I thought the Revis trade/contract was stupid....the situation down there was way too unsettled to be making those trades and contracts.
 
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